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Old 03-05-2014, 04:32 PM   #11
 
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1) Thanks for clearing that up. I HATED the bright light anyway. So how do I regulate a day night temp? Or should it be constant?
It should stay pretty consistant but it can fall to 85 on the warm and 75 on the cool side if need be.

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2) Got it. I will return the cave for one of the correct size. Aldo, have you ever heard of a humitity box?
These aren't necessary unless he is having trouble shedding.

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3) Really? Well THAT'S great. Now instead of an educated guess, it's a coin toss -_-
Well, I can give you all the advice I can but in the end, it's your decision to take it or not. That's what I meant by that.

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4) Okay. He won't get too hungry or starve will he? That's a LOT of missed feedings. And the separate container thing is bad even when we let him sit an hour in the dark before moving him back?
By the way, what do you think of these sites? Is it good information? Is anything wrong?
Kenyan (East African) Sand Boas (Eryx colubrinus)
The Sand Boa Page - Care Sheets
No, he will not starve. I am having issues with one of my rescues right now and she hasn't been fed in almost two months. Snakes are meant to binge in the wild, they don't always find food once a week. Ball Pythons even go off food for a year at a time if they so please. Kingsnake and Fauna Classifieds are good places for information. (:

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5) It sounds like you're pretty experienced. Thank you for agreeing to help me sift through all the false information. What snakes do you have? I would love to see pictures. Have you ever had a Sand Boa?
I currently have two Colombian or Common Boas. Also known improperly as Red Tail Boas. There are photos of them in my aquariums tab under my username. Nagini's Bin and Ronaldo's Bin. (:

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6) Okay. Now I see what you mean about hook training. I can totally see that. The feeding in cage still scares me with all the stories out there of snakes dying from ingesting bedding while eating. Any thoughts on a cloth snake bag? I have not clue what it is, but maybe it would be a good alternative to feeding directly in the tank.
Put a paper plate down, like I said. He won't ingest bedding and even if he does, it won't kill him. I wouldn't advise you to do it if it wasn't safe for your animal, I promise you. No, a snake bag will not be a good alternative.

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7) Good to know. They told me to spray it with a calcium suplament because pinkies have low calcium content. Is that right?
This is incorrect. Pinkies have more calcium than older mice. You can add it if you really want but it isn't necessary by any means.

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8) I looked after he ate last week and saw no bump at all. Maybe I missed it? So does that mean I can feed him 2 of the pinkies instead of one like you said earlier? I bought a 6 pack which is why I'm asking. Also, what if fuzzies end up being too big for him?
You won't miss it if it's appropriate-sized prey. Go ahead and feed the two pinkies until your box is gone and then you need to move up to an appropriate size. I would advise you to open the box in the store (I'm assuming you're getting ArcticMice from Petsmart) and eyeball it to the size of your snake. That's what I did when I was feeding Arctic. I order in bulk from BigCheese in Texas.

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9) I will do my best. What do I do when he comes to me when I'm changing his water and such? Do I ignore him? Pet him in tank? Pick him up only if he crawls into my hand?
You can stroke him a few times but otherwise ignore him.

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12) HOLY S***!!! I will. I tried to go to Walmart, but they have NOTHING for reptiles save for turtle food. I will turn his night light on and closely monitor it myself until we can go get one this weekend. I best check on him today and tomorrow to make sure the high temp didn't harm him.
Go on amazon and look for the thermostat I linked in my first response, you are going to be paying waaaay too much for a reptile-specific thermostat. The hydrofarm will work just as well and that is what I use personally for my boas.

I'm going to see if I have any pictures of the size of what my boas eat compared to their body to give you an idea of how large of prey you should feed.

ETA - I am going to PM you some photos. I feel they may be too graphic for other members here.

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Old 03-05-2014, 04:42 PM   #12
 
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Here is what the lump should look like -
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Old 03-05-2014, 07:58 PM   #13
 
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I can't thank you enough Flint.

I have the lights off and turned on the heating pad. It's keeping the hot side between 93 and 103. It's not perfect, but it's better than it was. I'm monitoring it and will unplug as needed. Turns out the store doesn't carry thermostats so we will have to buy online. One of the clasps is broken on our tank, so we are going to exchange it for a 20gal with lid instead of another 10gal kit. The pad is rated for 10-20gal so it should still work.

He came out when I changed his water so I gave him a little pet. It was good to see him doing okay. I'm glad fasting wont hurt him. I fed him on Sunday, so how long should I leave him alone in the tank unfed? Like date wise? And thanks for the site suggestions

I meant that as sarcasium hun. I spent all that time trying to figure out how to tell gender and it ended up being useless. Just one more piece of useless information like the humidity box and calcium spray. -_-

Cool! Wish I could see them. Siggys don't show up on the mobile version believe it or not. ;P

Thanks for comforting me. I just don't want to do anything that could potentially kill him which is why I keep fretting about it. I will try it, but how will I keep him from associating my hand with food? Longer tongs?

Thanks for the mouse tip and the pics. Looks like he needs fuzzies because he DEFINITELY didn't look like that. You can order mice in bulk? How? Is the shipping bad? What's the shelflife?
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Old 03-06-2014, 01:07 AM   #14
 
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You don't need to use tongs just put the warm food on a plate he should eat it on his own.

I order from BigCheese and I order 6 months worth at a time. They're only a state over from me so shipping is only like $20. Prices for shipping depend on how much dry ice they need to keep the prey frozen. If you give me your zip code I'll do a fake order and see how much it would cost.

Skip 3-4 feedings. I'll post pics of them in the morning.
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:32 AM   #15
 
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I think fuzzies come in a 4-pack. Medium mice do for sure.

Petsmart - Lower/Bad Quality
$42ish per 6 months (4-6g fuzzies)
$84 per 6 months (7-12g small mice)

BigCheese - High Quality
$39.25 per 6 months (4-7g fuzzies)
$44.25 per 6 months (8-12g hoppers)

I suggest going to Petsmart and comparing the size of your snake to the prey item before ordering so you know whether to get fuzzies or hoppers (petsmart small mice). You will only need 1 tray of prey from BigCheese, fuzzies and hoppers come in packs of 50 and that will last you exactly 6 months. When you receive them, all you have to do is take them off the tray, and put them in a freezer bag. I personally vacuum seal mine individually because they last longer that way, but that's your call. It will save you money and be better for your snake ordering from BigCheese in the end, not to mention you won't have to go out and buy food all the time. When I was feeding Arctic to my current boas, I was spending over $30 a month on food and driving an hour and a half round trip to get it.
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Old 03-06-2014, 10:58 PM   #16
 
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Thanks

I found some thermostats on Amazon for it, but they were all over $30. Can you tell me what to search for while looking in other departments for thermostats that would work?
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Old 03-07-2014, 07:56 AM   #17
 
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The thermostat I linked in my first post is the cheapest, effective one you will find.
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Old 03-09-2014, 10:20 PM   #18
 
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Still waiting on thermostat to arrive. Kind of winging the temp control by wrapping the heat pad in a towel so all the heat doesn't get through.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:56 AM   #19
 
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That's a fire hazard be careful.
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:50 AM   #20
 
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Well, what should I do then? Without the towel, it can get up to 120 on the hot side! That will kill him for sure especially since that is where he ALWAYS is. He never gets off the heated area no matter how hot it gets.

Also, the shipping was delayed so it will not arrive until later this week.
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