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Old 01-30-2008, 10:53 AM   #121
 
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We are having an unusually warm winter, all the snow has melted down. But we have still skipped one class this week, because there's a flu epidemic and our partner (the Great Dane's owner) couldn't attend.

It is absolutely true that we have fewer commands than you do and our dogs (and owners) have much easier lives, but the training is much more monotonous. I think I have a video of a training which I made some time ago when my daughter was training Mirta. I will try to post it somehow. We do not give a command Wait or Stay, it is just Sit in any case whether you come back or not. If you say Near - which is similar to Heel, the dog must sit down by your left side unless you are moving. We also have a command Apport - which is Fetch in fact and I found it very difficult to teach the Dalmatian. She wouldn't pick the toy up if it was dirty, for example.
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:56 PM   #122
 
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I think we are getting your weather for ya, lol. It's been really cold here, and getting more snow than usual. And one of the mountain passes was closed for almost 2 days straight. They finally got one lane each direction open, and working at getting more.

As for the commands, for the basics a person doesn't need much. But for competition, you really need more. It's more confusing to the dog if you have 1 command for 3 or 4 things. Like sit, what if you want him to sit and stay? If you were to walk off and you wanted him to stay, how many times do you think he would try to walk with you if you just said sit? Most every time you'll probably have to give the sit command again. Now for like Betty, If I say Sit, then I start walking, she heels with me. But if I say Sit, then Stay, then walk away, she stays and waits my return, usually just relaxed. But if I say Wait, when I walk away she stays put, but is more alert, waiting for another command. It makes it just that much easier for the dog, and is just a couple more commands for us to learn. And in competition, you wouldn't want to keep repeating the same command because the dog doesn't know for sure if he's supposed to follow or stay. Maybe that's a new thing you can start there and start a new line of training.

As for your dog, I can understand, dalmations are a harder dog to train than ACD's. ACD's are like an education sponge, you only have to do something once and they know it, lol. And that's why Betty has excelled so fast. ACD's, Shelties, Border Collies, and Aussie Shepherds are among the top learners in the dog world. German Shepherds are also good too, but not near as fast learning as the 4 I listed. And to think that the Border Collie is even smarter than the ACD, lol. That's why I want one for my 2nd dog, lol.
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Old 01-31-2008, 12:03 PM   #123
 
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I fully agree with you on the intellectual abilities of dogs. It has developed in this way since these breeds you've mentioned have had the selection according to the brain ability, not beauty for shows. Besides their work demanded the development of the skills. Dalmatians, however have been neglected as a working breed for centuries. Nevertheless they have developed a wonderful aristocratic affluence and a unique understanding of human nature. They are one of the few breeds who can give you a Hollywood smile! Once I had to defend the breed at the obedience ground when having seen that my dog would refuse to lie down in the mud somebody remarked something like - oh they ARE STUBBORN!, or stupid, to which I replied that only stupid creatures (like GSH) do what they are told to without proper consideration

I love dogs in general. Even more than fish . However, I have chosen the breed (at random, by the way) and am very happy with it. The main thing is that my Dal rarely barks, only in dead serious situations. As I am quiet myself it suits me perfectly to have a quiet companion. But I love dogs' barking anyway! If I could (had more free time and lived closer to the woods), I would also get a border collie or something like that. My daughter is dreaming of a GSH. But I really do not know which pedigree I would refuse to have.

Anyway, I am impressed by Betty's abilities and the abilities of your dogs in general. I think I could squeeze out more of my Dal if I were more persistent. I guess I just have to put down the stuff she can do, maybe it will appear not so bad.

I did think that the weather in your parts was always snowy. For us this kind of mild winter is very unusual. I am afraid something is seriously wrong with our climate. But changes are for the better!
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:33 PM   #124
 
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Another thing to mention is that another thing the Dal's were bred to do is guarding. They do make excellent guard dogs as well. I'm really not too knowlegable about them, and you've educated me more on them as well. It's good talking to people about their personal experiences with any breed that they own.

As for the snow, we usually do get snow here, but not this much. We are just getting dumped on, and the passes are closed once again, lol. They had them open for a short while, and now they are closed again due to avalanches or avalanche control. Makes it tough on all the truckers that are needing to get their loads across the passes, and we are waiting on our freight at work as well.
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:15 PM   #125
 
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I can't believe you've stolen all our snow! We have never had such a nasty warm and snowless winter as far as I can remember. I can't say I enjoy cold weather, but there just has to be winter at this time of the year.

Thanks for educating ME and posting so much about dogs. I also enjoy talking about different pedigrees. I do agree that Dals are good guards. However, when we got our girl, we were actually looking for a guard dog for our parents' country home. A friend informed me about a new litter of Dalmatians and my daughter was 'graduating' from the kindergarten, so I didn't have to think twice. The owner of the litter warned us that Dalmatians were no guards at all. By that she obviously meant that we shouldn't chain her at a dog house (sadly, that is still a common practice around here), which we wouldn't do with any dog, be it a ferocious beast.

When Mirta was three or four months old she already followed me in my bike rides along country roads and through the woods. You should have seen her guarding me against very scanty passers by! Besides she would calm down and quit charging as soon as I demanded! She brakes quite easily. Then I started reading more about Dals and rediscovered that they used to guard carriages in England in the 18th century. The English shaped this breed and tried it in different trades, having discovered it was 'good for nothing' they sent it to the stables. That's what I've read in a book. But how can a lovely aesthetic creature be good for nothing?

I really think that the diversity of dog breeds is one of the wonders of human nature and says a lot about culture and historical development. I enjoy this gift of nature and human ingenuity.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:46 AM   #126
 
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I can't believe you've stolen all our snow!
LOL.... It's been a really strange winter so far. And we've had some bitter cold temps too. Usually we get the cold for only a few days, but for over 2 weeks we've had very cold temps. It's finally starting to warm up a little, hovering right around freezing and getting a little above freezing mid-day. I hope it warms up soon, lol.

Betty's still a mean pup, lol. She tried to get at another pup this morning on our walk, the pup wasn't on a leash and came running up to Betty. Betty does not like things coming at her fast. So I had to break up another fight that Betty started, the pup just wanted to play, but Betty didn't. I hate it when she does that, lol. I think it was an Australian Shepherd pup, almost full grown and long-haired, so Betty had a hard time holding on so I was able to get her off really easy without any harm to either dog. I don't like it when she does it to shorter-haired dogs because she latches on and won't let go. I should have dropped the leash, maybe it would have resulted differently, but with me pulling on the leash, that might be the trigger. Since she seemed to get along great off-leash with a couple other dogs when there was a fence between them, maybe she would have been different if I just dropped the leash. But I'm not sure the other owner would have appreciated seeing me drop the leash, lol.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:48 PM   #127
 
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Oh, just to let you know, we are under another Winter Storm Alert, lol. The snow is coming down, lol. Supposed to get up to 3 inches tonight, then it looks like snow the rest of the week too. Will see how much of the storm we actually get, the last one kind of missed us in town here, but the surrounding areas got plummeted.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:54 PM   #128
 
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Check this......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sUL0KCIc48
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:30 PM   #129
 
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Here's a short video clip of Betty out at the park. It works in Real Player...

http://www.nw-wolf.com/misc/betty/betty.3g2
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:53 AM   #130
 
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I opened the computer late at night yesterday and watched the video with the dal-reindeer! It made my day! Thanks a lot! I laughed so much and they say laughter is good for you. As to the second video, I couldn't open it, I think if you can send it through a different program I would be able to...

I know that the climate in America is milder than in North-Eastern Europe but it is somewhat more extreme. So you probably have more sudden changes in temps and other conditions in a shorter period of time. But now everything seems to be different and we are experiencing some gusty winds and even storms. No snow. Yesterday when we were training our dogs, it started to snow a little, but the snowflakes were scarce and they couldn't stay on the ground for a long time.

My dog trainer suggested that you should try a muzzle on Betty. Just find a placid he-dog companion, and introduce 'muzzled' Betty to him on open ground. If they start playing try to remove the muzzle. It would be great if you could do it once in a while, then Betty would get accustomed to the fact that other dogs can be a lot of fun. It's a pity that you're so far away and we cannot bring Mirta over, she would would teach Betty all the dogs' fun in the world. Yesterday she was pulling me to the dogs' ground so hard that I had to hold on to my friend.

If the muzzle doesn't work, there's a special collar, but I'm sure you know about it. It is something like they use on horses, and used to pacify an aggressive dog. Many leashed dogs overreact because they try to protect their owner besides they feel stronger when leashed - connected to their master!
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