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Killer whale kills... again
Old 02-25-2010, 06:38 PM   #11
 
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Releasing it might be best. I heard a discussion today about these whales. So if it's wrong don't blame me.
Apparently killer whales, not sure if it's all whales, have no short term memory at all. They only have long term memory. This allows the whales to be released back to the wild after years of being kept in captivity. They forget that someone has been feeding them all those years yet still remember how to hunt and survive in the wild.
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:25 PM   #12
 
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Is Tilikum a captive bred or wild caught whale? I don't recall reading if he was or wasn't in the various articles.
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:48 PM   #13
 
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I don't know now that you mention it. People used to think I was nuts being a firefighter going in to burning buildings. Swimming with something the size of a locomotive that is named "killer" is nuts imo
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:55 PM   #14
 
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I don't know now that you mention it. People used to think I was nuts being a firefighter going in to burning buildings. Swimming with something the size of a locomotive that is named "killer" is nuts imo
Very well put Harri.
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Old 02-26-2010, 12:16 AM   #15
 
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People used to think I was nuts being a firefighter going in to burning buildings
My brother was a firefighter... I'll choose to still think your nuts

I agree, the whale was just acting on instinct, much like we do in certain situations despite our evolved brain.

I too hope they either release him or retire him somewhere more condusive to his natural habitat.
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Old 02-26-2010, 03:00 AM   #16
 
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I'm not sure if you could say it was entire based on instinct.

Killer whales are smart animals. I've seen video footage of them dragging seals out to sea just to toss them back and forth with their tails (they weren't even trying to eat the seal). For some reason, I think animals that have that sort of human level of thought processes are more dangerous than those that act purely out of instinct because they're less predictable as a result.

I don't agree with Kym about the "all marine mammals" thing, but I do think it's nuts keeping an animal that lives in groups in the open ocean in a small tank like this. That'd be like keeping a zebra danio in a soup bowl.
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Old 02-26-2010, 07:01 AM   #17
 
Well I hope that is true Mean Harri and they can release him. I read this on AIM news which has 5 theoriess of why he could've done this. http://www.aolnews.com/nation/articl...ories/19373498 Now they're saying that they knew all along that he was more dangerous than the others and only a dozen people were allowed to interact with him and NO ONE was allowed in the tank with him. That should've been the warning signs there that this animal should've NEVER done shows and they should've just let him back into the wild. On that website they said that he was too overworked and they used him a lot for breeding purposes. I feel bad for the animal too because I really don't think he meant any harm to her. I agree iamntbatman, it's like putting us in a small jail cell. We'd eventually go crazy and lash out.
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Old 02-26-2010, 07:47 AM   #18
 
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Tilikum is a wild caught orca.....and they dont expect him to angry about being in a tiny pool compared to his old home?!?! What upsets me is that this IS NOT the first time he has killed someone...so why do they think he wont do it again.....i do feel bad for her family, but she shouldnt have been messing with him to begin with!! Im going to be FUMING if they euthanize him!! even if she was just petting him, it was bound to happen.
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Old 02-26-2010, 09:39 AM   #19
 
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I'm not sure if you could say it was entire based on instinct.

Killer whales are smart animals. I've seen video footage of them dragging seals out to sea just to toss them back and forth with their tails (they weren't even trying to eat the seal). For some reason, I think animals that have that sort of human level of thought processes are more dangerous than those that act purely out of instinct because they're less predictable as a result.

I don't agree with Kym about the "all marine mammals" thing, but I do think it's nuts keeping an animal that lives in groups in the open ocean in a small tank like this. That'd be like keeping a zebra danio in a soup bowl.
+1. After reading that Tilikum is a wild caught orca makes even more "sense" to me as to why his behavior is such as it is.
Jim- for the record, I do make exceptions so I need to back peddle a bit. For example, I'm okay with sea otters in captivity. Since their numbers in the wild were decimated a captive breeding program makes sense to me. But....keeping whales and dolphins in captivity just isn't right.

Latest news: Orca to be spared in trainer's death - USATODAY.com
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Old 02-26-2010, 10:10 AM   #20
 
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Tillikum is like that for some reason. I mean for all we know he could've been playing with her and he forgot how fragile she was. I don't think he would mean to kill a trainer but I don't know much of this story but I love killer whales and know alot about Tillikum himself.

But despite how many people he's killed he's one of my favorite whales.

Just another point Tillikum is a very important in the study of AI in animals. Which eventually he could be thanked for saving of several endangered species.
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