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post #1 of 11 Old 04-30-2010, 11:02 AM Thread Starter
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illegal snails rant

i am mad. i want to have snails or shrimp to help keep my tank clean. my stupid state gov't says they are pests. so they are illegal. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! And we leave the state very infrequently so i won't be able to get any anytime soon. the only pet store in MA that we are every near when we visit the in laws doesn't sell nerite snails.



GRRRRRR!!! The stupid snails and shrimp would die in our winters if anyone was stupid enough to dump them. argharhgaherhaeralrha l;ejr


sorry, just frustrated with my algae and really want something to eat it up.

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post #2 of 11 Old 04-30-2010, 11:18 AM
I hear ya!.....I have wanted to send folks snails and crays and due to the laws....I can't........

Too many people set their livestock free thinking it is the right thing to do and it causes destruction of the natural ecosystem in some cases.....some of these critters can out compete the native critters or domesticated especially tropical can introduce diseases to the native critters killing them off because they have no natural immunity to it....and so true most of what we have in out tanks will not survive in the natural ecosystem....it is what they cause until then that can be the problem..........

Protect our ecosystem and don't flush or release anything aquatic in the wild even if that is where you got it...once it has been exposed to tropical pathogen/parasite they can transfer it to others in the wild and destroy our ecosystem.......

Sorry...I will stop ranting........
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post #3 of 11 Old 04-30-2010, 11:51 AM
Wow, I've never heard of them being illegal in some states...that's ridiculous!


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post #4 of 11 Old 05-02-2010, 07:59 AM
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it's like that with some plants i belive too.

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #5 of 11 Old 05-03-2010, 03:08 AM
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Yep. I know stuff like hornwort can be really problematic in the right conditions. Anacharis too, I believe.

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post #6 of 11 Old 05-03-2010, 02:57 PM Thread Starter
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yeah, Maine has a HUGE list of illegal plants as well. ARGH
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post #7 of 11 Old 05-03-2010, 09:35 PM
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wow i have never heard of tht...here in california you can pretty much get snails for like 10 cents or free if you know where to go...because a lot of snails are multiplying so they give then away for free
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post #8 of 11 Old 05-04-2010, 09:11 AM
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Which snails and shrimps did you want? Pomacea diffusa and nerites are not illegal.

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post #9 of 11 Old 05-04-2010, 06:09 PM Thread Starter
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Lupin,

I want to get freshwater nerites. I was told the stores can't order any snails except for salt water? I don't have the time/experience to acclimate them to fresh water...

How did you find out they are legal?? If they are in fact legal, I will order some online..
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post #10 of 11 Old 05-05-2010, 08:27 AM
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I am a member of applesnail.net. They can make further announcements as the forum is under tight watch by USDA itself. Pomacea diffusa was never really considered illegal and you can ship interstate from egg clutches to adults as long as these are proven true diffusas. There are other species that look similar to diffusas but if you know what you are looking for, then you will find that the snail you have, may not be the one you're looking for. Canas in particular, look similar but they're more voracious and can decimate planted tanks in hours.

Acclimating fish and inverts from SW to FW is almost impossible without suffering big losses. It's a waste of time IMO. Hyposalinity is something their osmoregulatory system cannot handle very well and it takes several weeks to completely acclimate some fish to FW environment. Still a painful and inhumane process nevertheless.

Nerites never pose a threat. They are strictly vegetarians. They have never been considered illegal as far as I can remember.

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