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post #1 of 20 Old 02-02-2010, 06:44 PM Thread Starter
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I've seen one or two folks about our fabulous forums state they are Vegans. Veganchick is pretty obviously one. I mention you by name as I just read something posted by you and it made me wonder.
How does animal keeping and the Vegan lifestyle coincide? I admit that I am not "up" on the Vegan laws or can and can't do's. But reading this Wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism I wonder how pet keeping works considering the ending part of sentence one (1).

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post #2 of 20 Old 02-02-2010, 06:52 PM
I'm vegetarian... but I'm pretty sure there are no rules when you're a Vegan. It depends on how strict you want to be about it with yourself. I don't see how keeping small animals would conflict with their Veganism.

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post #3 of 20 Old 02-02-2010, 08:48 PM
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I know two types of vegans, i went to school with a girl who was passionate about animals and how they should not be killed and is an animal lover. then there is my mom who is a vegan, she's only been one for 6 years,she began a vegan simply for health reasons, i get weird reactions from people once i tell them she's a vegan but yet my dad has worked on a dairy farm since childhood. lol . she still takes a bit our our meat since it "smells soooo good"(her words)and we joke with her about stealing a bit. but for the animal keeping, we have 1 dog and 5 cats. i'd think for a strict vegan, they would have a love for animals. but it depends on the person.
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post #4 of 20 Old 02-02-2010, 08:52 PM
look, eriCCC, i'm vegetarian (not vegan) but as you're looking for trouble tonight, i will not engage in this one.

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post #5 of 20 Old 02-02-2010, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
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I knew you were vegetarian Stephanie. I mean just Vegan. lol don't be mad. I'm seriously wondering though.

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Ok I'll stop stirring trouble. My little devil was active tonight. I guess this is a loaded question so I herby close this thread with the powers invested in me. Of which, I have none.

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post #7 of 20 Old 02-02-2010, 09:50 PM
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Ok I'll stop stirring trouble. My little devil was active tonight. I guess this is a loaded question so I herby close this thread with the powers invested in me. Of which, I have none.
I have a tiny bit of power. Do you want me to close it?

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May as well Aunt Kymmie. I was curious however I had that little devilish smile on my face when I made this. Seeing Veganchicks name spontaneously caused a "what about this" kind of thing in my head lol
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May as well Aunt Kymmie. I was curious however I had that little devilish smile on my face when I made this. Seeing Veganchicks name spontaneously caused a "what about this" kind of thing in my head lol
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post #10 of 20 Old 02-02-2010, 10:02 PM
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As long as conversation remains civilized I think it's alright if we keep the topic open.

Not a vegetarian or vegan myself, but I think it would be pretty easy to reconcile petkeeping with animal rights-based veganism. Here are two possible justifications:

1) Vegans might buy or adopt pets that might otherwise end up in worse conditions (i.e. sick pets or pets that would likely end up in the hands of people who would, intentionally or out of ignorance, mistreat them). Of course, it can be counter-argued that doing so is still supporting an industry that is more harmful for animals than not, but a response to this might be that the efforts of a few individuals to improve the lives of a few animals are but drops in the bucket of the pet industry, and that ultimately the answer to the problem is education of the potential pet owner.

2) In rare cases, keeping animals as pets can be objectively helpful to the particular species. Good examples include the attempted breeding of giant pandas in zoos and, in our own hobby, the breeding efforts of fishkeepers who keep cichlids from Lake Victoria, fish that are in many cases on the brink of extinction (or perhaps already extinct) in the wild due to human action.

Both of these seem like defensible positions for the pet-keeping vegan. I'm sure there are more.

Edit: Kym posted and locked the thread while I was still typing. If anyone wants to respond to my comments feel free to PM me!

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