My friend tried breeding discus and his never got to more than quarter size.
Adults seem like a good idea. When you transport them they lay down sideways. It's weird. Be ready for that.
Spikefin goby.. another one to add to the list.
Angel fish and bichir would work great together actually. Won't get in each other's way, as long as the angels are at least 3 inches long you'd be good to go.
The tank is nice but it's too planted. I need a lot of room at the bottom for the bichir to scoot around. I want to get driftwood and see if I can plant it heavy on the mid- top section with anubias and leave the bottom mostly bare. That seems natural, right? The plants in nature would rather grow higher up than lower down?
I also saw mangrove trees for sale. I'd LOVE to try it- but with ropefish and bichir I can't do an open top tank for mangrove trees. If I can find one I'd try it for a betta tank though, haha. Anubias run about $9 for a tiny little piece around here.
From my reading the hard part about discus is getting them to the adult or subadult size. When they are juveniles, they need daily water changes. While it would be nice to see fish grow, not at that expense. I'd rather shell out the big bucks and have someone else do that for me.
A lot of the goby articles I found on PFK were about new gobies being discovered. I also saw some pretty wild looking fish. That rare spikefin goby was like an anglerfish!
Would angels and bichirs actually work (aside from the whole biotope thing)? I've never looked into angels because the only cichlids I've ever really cared for are discus.
That is a gorgeous tank! Is that what you want yours to look like? I never thought anubias were very expensive. Do they cost more in Canada?
Hah. Yea, I quote the guy at my fish store: "discus aren't hard anymore. saltwater isn't hard anymore."
Seems like the only challenge these days is newly discovered species. Get an RO system and you've basically got total control over your tank.
Gobies. Yes lot's of saltwater and brackish. But freshwater too, though not as pretty. I love the common brackish knight goby. Then of course the saltwater mandarin goby. Then also the freshwater water cow (if it's a goby- it's a sleeper goby so it's similar?). Gobies are just so wonderfully diverse but a lot of the pretty ones are really rare. Look them up on the PFK site and there's tons of articles.
Ugh, I really want angel fish. They were supposed to go in the 90 before the whole biotope thing happened. But I WILL stick to the Africa theme, angels would just ruin everything.
Look at this tank- dominated by anubias (and african fern). I love it! But anubias are so expensive!
I do imagine I'll see a lot of small-mindedness with discus people, but I'm very confident in my ability to keep fish alive. The way it sounds, if I don't get juveniles it'll be just like taking care of the goldfish. Weekly large water changes. Imagine what the discus people would think to hear their precious fish compared to goldfish! >:D
He was cute in a grumpy old man sorta way. Like the main character from UP. The whale catfish was kinda freaky. I thought the candiru were the creepiest thing in the amazon waters. Guess again!!
Are there many freshwater gobies? I always seem to remember them from ichthyology as mostly salt and brackish.
A lot of discus people are in a teeny tiny little box when it comes to fish. My friend has a beautiful 150 gallon discus set up with gorgeous fish, but he insists that carbon is needed in every aquarium. I hope he doesn't fertilize his plants. xD
Wait.. So the water cow goby isn't cute? It looks like something I'd want to squeeze and love and hug in my eyes! Blue whale catfish, not so much. If I were to get a 30ish gallon I'd probably look for a frogmouth catfish, to start the collection off. Ugly, but manageable. Recently I've fallen in love with gobies in general (sadly I took my bumblebees back after one of them ate a shrimp that cost twice as much as it did).
Derp! Sorry. Sometimes I forget you're in Canada. Have any family in the US willing to do you a favor? ;)
When I looked through the discus forum on MFK I did find a lot of good information. People talking about the specifics of their setups. Really useful stuff, but I've heard bad things about discus keepers in general: they tend to only attend to the needs of the discus with little care for the rest of the fish in there especially with regards to temperature. When I do join I'm probably not going to venture anywhere near most subforums. Thanks for the tip on the overstockers. I'll try to stay clear of those threads and not ask them for stocking advice.
I looked up the water cow goby and came face to face with the grumpiest-looking fish ever! You do have a taste for oddballs. Also I read the blue whale catfish also likes taking bites out of people! The oddest fish I'd probably ever have would be archerfish or bichir.
What do I want to keep? Hmm, first monster tank will probably be a giant gourami biotope. After that, a faster paced Asian river with some China high fin sharks and something for the top. Look up "Water cow goby" on google. Such a cool fish, but I hear they take chunks out of other fish. Same with Blue whale catfish (not a monster fish). Such a beautifully ugly fish, but they also like biting pieces out of other fish. My LFS carries them all the time. A 70 gallon tank for just some catfish? I don't know, not tempting with limited resources, but some day! Same with gulper catfish! I can see myself going in the catfish direction, but I also love oddballs. Some big oddballs, perfect.
(sorry accidentally had to split this in 3.)
MFK.. there's a lot of good stuff on there so go through it for sure. I'm not sure if there's a lot of biotope knowledge though if that's what you need. Discus people on there may be more sane than the bichir keepers. A lot of MFK is just stuffing as many fish as you can into a tank with crazy filtration as justification. The comfort of the fish is often ignored. I looked through there and there's good info on stuff such as feeding. Just if you start posting there be sure you can just.. overlook.. the people that overstock their tanks like crazy.
Well.. they are on AB.. But everything on AB is USA only shipping.
55 gallons for a senegal should actually be fine, but those tanks are only 12" wide so that can be a problem for a full grown fish. I think a smaller, but wider tank is fine too.
That stinks about the bichirs. Have you checked AB? My petsmart actually carries sengals. They claim they only need a 55 gallon tank. *facepalm* They actually offered me a job the last time I was there. I think I would blow my lid on too many people and get fired.
I'll take your word about the reseal. Not looking to do that. It's going to be a few years before I get my large tanks. And even then I don't think they'll be as large as yours Ms Future Monster Fishkeeper! :P
So MFK isn't the best place for advice? I was hoping to go to them about a discus setup I had planned for the next few years. I'm rethinking that now after I've heard what you and Sanguinefox have to say about them. Also I find it funny how you've progressed from bettas to monster fish! :D What exactly do you want to keep?