Yeah that's true.
If it was that easy it will get over produce
Form n size is harder to maintain
Work with it first
If the color get out of hand u can always take the simple way out n cross it to marble
Thing I'm going to try
1)Forster the egg to another male that have a nest.
-Slowly drop the egg under the male nest with a clear tub
Down fall to this
I might lost two spawn
Hard to get two pair to spawn at the same time
Train my male
To build up endurance
To be a more active fish/which I hope will become a more productive dad
Will be come more aggressive
If these fail I'll go back to the drawing board
If giants were the same as regulars, then there would be no fun in exploring giants. LOL It's the challenge that gets the better of me - trying new ways to manipulate them.
I am currently faced with the choice of breeding for color, form, or size (my so called giants seem to be cross breeds or half giants). The better formed are small/regular. The bigger ones are either poor formed or I don't like the color. If I breed for form or color, I might lose the size. If I breed for size, I might lose the form and end up with traditional PK form.
I'm also thinking whether all this is worth the trouble? But in my case, I will always be curious if I haven't done it myself. I have to produce real giants .... then I might retire. Then again, who knows. I might just get fed up with them. (unlikely) LOL
Yes that seems to be their trend - bigger = lazy
I have this red drgn male, very hard to breed. Thus far he killed 3 females each in the breeding tank for about a day. They weren't torn up but he seems to have a "killer punch". I finally succeeded spawning him - artificially hatched the eggs. This was his fourth successful spawn. He ate the first 3. I just acclimated his fry into the grow out. Hope they survive.
Try using live plants as substrates so the male can't get to the eggs (you said he won't pick them up anyway). when they're done, take everything out - breeders and plants. Lower the water level then hope for the best. If they hatch, take out bad eggs or you could do OFL's method by putting in a pond snail to eat the bad eggs. Place some plants in and add old, infusoria water and feed like usual.
For some reason ALL of my breeders, giant and regular males ..... half giants (they're only 6-7 cm BO) .... are egg eaters.
Are u facing the same problem as I'm am.
I'm upping the look n size on the giant.
But as the same I'm facing with lazy hungry male.
My last 3 attemp on three different male.
The male will breed but will not pick up the egg unless he's eating them.
In my country cheap-expensive giants depends on who and where they were bred. Well known breeders and show player will sell them for a higher price compared to average breeder. And their giants aren't even TRUE GIANTS or the SUPER GROWERS. Problem is that ..... I'm not active in my local betta community so I don't know who's who. All I know is expensive and cheap giants. LOL
Fortunately for me giants are now being over bred so they're getting cheaper and cheaper. The problem is that I don't want to just get a fighter style giant. I want that SQ giant so I don't have to strain myself improving them. LOL ... I no longer have the energy.