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post #1 of 24 Old 04-05-2012, 09:07 PM Thread Starter
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This may not be the right forum for this question but someone might know. I have a total of 4 tetras and 5 platys. One of my tetras for the last couple of weeks has consistantly been hiding in the cave only coming out to eat, etc. I can't tell if its male/female because they move so fast. Could there be baby eggs in there that they are protecting?? or the only other thing maybe my platy had babies so one might be hiding in there cuz I know the tetras love fish babies they are piranahs...anything would help..sorry for the long post..
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post #2 of 24 Old 04-05-2012, 10:04 PM
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What type of tetra is it and what type of tetras do you have. My guess is that its really shy because your school isnt big enough. almost all tetras need to be in schools of at least 6 of there own kind.
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What type of tetra is it and what type of tetras do you have. My guess is that its really shy because your school isnt big enough. almost all tetras need to be in schools of at least 6 of there own kind.
I have neon tetras
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I have neon tetras
I suggest that you up your school to 8
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post #5 of 24 Old 04-06-2012, 11:11 AM
more the better no less then 6 as calfishguy said but it depends on the size of your tank too

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And water parameters. Neon tetra require soft slightly acidic water (pH below 7), and while they may "manage" in harder more basic water, there is a limit to how much and how long; this can be very stressful, and the symptom you describe is one of stress fro something. Platy on the other hand need medium hard or harder water, with a basic pH (above 7).

Tetra also need a group as someone mentioned, and they need lots of cover; they are fish from generally dark waters and like to have lots of cover over them and around them. They will be out and about more if they know there is cover nearby.

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And water parameters. Neon tetra require soft slightly acidic water (pH below 7), and while they may "manage" in harder more basic water, there is a limit to how much and how long; this can be very stressful, and the symptom you describe is one of stress fro something. Platy on the other hand need medium hard or harder water, with a basic pH (above 7).

Tetra also need a group as someone mentioned, and they need lots of cover; they are fish from generally dark waters and like to have lots of cover over them and around them. They will be out and about more if they know there is cover nearby.

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Tetras don't need a low Ph. I keep my neons at a ph of 8 and they are fine. As long as you have a stable ph they should be fine.
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Tetras don't need a low Ph. I keep my neons at a ph of 8 and they are fine. As long as you have a stable ph they should be fine.
I cannot agree here. It has been established that soft water fish will not live normal lives in hard water. The pH is connected, but the GH or more aqccurately the dissolved solids and electrolytes in the water are an issue. The fish may "manage" but they will be under stress, and this always weakens the fish somehow. Rarely if ever will they live their normal lifespan, and this alone indicates that something is not right.

My next project is an article on stress, wherein this issue will be discussed with the science.

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I cannot agree here. It has been established that soft water fish will not live normal lives in hard water. The pH is connected, but the GH or more aqccurately the dissolved solids and electrolytes in the water are an issue. The fish may "manage" but they will be under stress, and this always weakens the fish somehow. Rarely if ever will they live their normal lifespan, and this alone indicates that something is not right.

My next project is an article on stress, wherein this issue will be discussed with the science.
I'm sorry but I can't agree I have kept multiple fish for many years that like low ph at high ph and thy have all had above normal lifespans. I aslso googled the neon tetras ph and most sites say between 6and 7.8 is good. I also checked a few of my reference books and they all say not higher than a ph of 8 I the fish has been properly acclimated. IMO/E they are fine at higher ph if they ate acclimated slowly. However I you decide that your issue is because of your ph I don't recommend using buffers or ph up or down I suggest that you get a different tetra. Messing with your waters Ph can often be a nightmare.
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post #10 of 24 Old 04-06-2012, 02:12 PM
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To add to my point my aunt who has tha same ph as me 8. Has 2 18 year old iridescent sharks. These sharks have a preferred ph of 6.5-7.5 and an average lifespan of 10-15 years. Here is proof that fish can surpass there average lifespans when kept in an aquarium with a higher ph than recommended.
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