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Old 08-11-2011, 04:54 PM   #11
 
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I tried to attach images. If it did work, the pictures arnt too good as there from my phone. But any input whether or not these fish are pregnant would be helpful. I believe they are all female.
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Old 08-11-2011, 11:16 PM   #12
 
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How long would you say the pregnant platy pictured has left until she births?
I am guessing within a week, although I am thinking probably days. Still new with the platys and only have one batch of fry that I am growing out. Was able to do so because I seperated one of the platys from everyone else and put her into a 10 gal. After she gave birth I put her back in my 50 gal community tank. I am hoping that eventually I will get better at being able to estimate when they will drop. Still deciding if I want to try placing her in a breeder net and let her drop her fry there, or just let her drop these ones in the community tank. Once I have the other 20 gal that I want to get I will have more room to be able to grow my fry out in.
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Old 08-12-2011, 02:19 AM   #13
 
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From what I can tell by the pictures in the 1st pic I would say for sure the one on the left and definitly the one on the right. In the second pic the one at the top, and in the 3rd all look to be at some degree. Watch them they will continue to get larger. Eventually they will actually start to look square. Most of the time when they get close to throwing their fry they will start to not move around as much and many become uninterested in food. Sometimes you can see the gravid spot, or notice around the vent it getting darker. Most livebearers will give birth in the early morning.
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Old 08-12-2011, 06:52 AM   #14
 
Thanks again Barb for all of your help. I observed them quite a bit last night. There are two that are close. You can see light brown gravid spots on two of them as of now. As far as behavior they were swimming around, and eating. But sometimes they were just resting at the bottom of tank, and were acting sort of dominant and hiding in caves and not letting other near the cave, hiding under filter etc. but then would come out and swim around and eat like normal, so as to when these two are going to birth I have no idea. (I'm just really concerned as to when there going to birth, and can't figure out what I'm going to do with all the fry once they are born.)

On another note. I have noticed all of the platies in the tank doing something odd that I've never seen before. They are almost scratching up against caves, rocks, side of tank etc. They swim against things sideways almost as if they are itching. Ive looked and there is no ich present. Is this a disease I should be concerned about or just a funny behavior. A water change was done last night. I was unable to add conditioner this time, but added the reccomended amount of aquarium salt. And after I did do the water change some of them were swimmng sideways in almost an ill fashion, not scraping or anything, just odd swimming. But all appeared to be doing well this morning. Thanks again for all your help and I hope I'm not overbearing you with my questions. :)
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Old 08-12-2011, 10:22 AM   #15
 
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You Platy's could have had stomach bloat. I dealt with that once. A friend of ours who's knows allot about fish thought our Platy's where pregnant but then they started to die one at a time. I have since put in new platy's that have actually had babies and I couldn't tell the difference in their stomachs until the end. But I have once again dealt with the stomach bloat problem. It seems sometimes they eat to much (bouncing of size from smaller to larger) and mix it with an internal parasite you get stomach bloat where they can't digest the food properly. Once we figured this out I started to notice that the one with the stomach issue actually out grew the one that had baby's, then I saw the difference the squareness of the stomach, the one with stomach bloat was more rounded but only slightly very hard to notice. I was able to QT him and treat her with an internal parasite treatment and she lived!!! Good luck, with the rest of your's, they are a great addition to any tank, but sometimes nature courses and our "not fully understanding these creatures" takes a different path....

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Old 08-12-2011, 10:22 AM   #16
 
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Thanks again Barb for all of your help. I observed them quite a bit last night. There are two that are close. You can see light brown gravid spots on two of them as of now. As far as behavior they were swimming around, and eating. But sometimes they were just resting at the bottom of tank, and were acting sort of dominant and hiding in caves and not letting other near the cave, hiding under filter etc. but then would come out and swim around and eat like normal, so as to when these two are going to birth I have no idea. (I'm just really concerned as to when there going to birth, and can't figure out what I'm going to do with all the fry once they are born.)

On another note. I have noticed all of the platies in the tank doing something odd that I've never seen before. They are almost scratching up against caves, rocks, side of tank etc. They swim against things sideways almost as if they are itching. Ive looked and there is no ich present. Is this a disease I should be concerned about or just a funny behavior. A water change was done last night. I was unable to add conditioner this time, but added the reccomended amount of aquarium salt. And after I did do the water change some of them were swimmng sideways in almost an ill fashion, not scraping or anything, just odd swimming. But all appeared to be doing well this morning. Thanks again for all your help and I hope I'm not overbearing you with my questions. :)
Not a problem For the two that you can see the gravid spot on them may darken more before the drop their fry. I am guessing for them it will probably be soon that they will drop their fry. One of the things that you can do to give the fry a chance if dropped in the tank with everyone else is to provide hiding spots, such things as low sitting plants can be used, real or fake. If you do have any the are dropped in the main tank for getting them out I would use some airline tubing to siphon them out into a seperate container and then they can be placed in their own tank.

For the behavior last night the flashing could be caused by a number of things such as ich, heavy metals in the water, or nitrite levels. Do you know what the readings for ammonia, nitrite and nitrates in the tank are? For the behavior of the fish I would continue to watch and observe them. As for the reaction after the water change a couple of questions. Are you using city water? If so the chlorine and possibly if present in the water chloramines are posioness to fish. Chlorine will dissapate from the water after a certain amount of time chloramine however will not. Did you match the water temp of the new water to that which was already in the tank? Are you using aquarium salt all the time in this tank, or did you start to use only because of the flashing? If you have been using the salt on regular basis did you add salt for only the amount of water you where replacing, or for the entire 10 gal?
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Not a problem For the two that you can see the gravid spot on them may darken more before the drop their fry. I am guessing for them it will probably be soon that they will drop their fry. One of the things that you can do to give the fry a chance if dropped in the tank with everyone else is to provide hiding spots, such things as low sitting plants can be used, real or fake. If you do have any the are dropped in the main tank for getting them out I would use some airline tubing to siphon them out into a seperate container and then they can be placed in their own tank.

For the behavior last night the flashing could be caused by a number of things such as ich, heavy metals in the water, or nitrite levels. Do you know what the readings for ammonia, nitrite and nitrates in the tank are? For the behavior of the fish I would continue to watch and observe them. As for the reaction after the water change a couple of questions. Are you using city water? If so the chlorine and possibly if present in the water chloramines are posioness to fish. Chlorine will dissapate from the water after a certain amount of time chloramine however will not. Did you match the water temp of the new water to that which was already in the tank? Are you using aquarium salt all the time in this tank, or did you start to use only because of the flashing? If you have been using the salt on regular basis did you add salt for only the amount of water you where replacing, or for the entire 10 gal?
The last time I checked the amonia was at .25. I can't remember the others. I know I did have a Nitrite spike though. I am using city water, but have never had this problem before when doing water changes. I didn't match the water temp, so that very well could have been the problem. I usually just guesstimate by feel of water temp and get it close as possible. I have been using aquarium salt in it all the time, and have been adding the reccomended amount for a 10 gallon tank.
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Old 08-12-2011, 10:54 AM   #18
 
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The last time I checked the amonia was at .25. I can't remember the others. I know I did have a Nitrite spike though. I am using city water, but have never had this problem before when doing water changes. I didn't match the water temp, so that very well could have been the problem. I usually just guesstimate by feel of water temp and get it close as possible. I have been using aquarium salt in it all the time, and have been adding the reccomended amount for a 10 gallon tank.
Couple of things here come to mind. What are you using for testing your water? The strip tests or a liquid test like API master test kit? The liquid test is more accuarate then the strips, so I would recommend investing in one if you haven't already. Also have you tested your tap water to see if ammonia or nitrites or nitrates are present? If any of these are present in the water I would recommend using Prime by seachem when you do your water changes, which will turn ammonina into ammonium which is a harmless form to fish and will also detoxify nitrites. Ammonia at .25 in the short term is not very harmful to the fish but in the long term it can be especially if ammonia continues to be present. If there are is no ammonia or nitrites present in the tap water than I would recommend using a good water conditioner .

For water temps it does not have to be right on but close alot of people will actually add water that is a little bit cooler than the tank, not by much, but it simulates what happens in nature when it rains.

On the aquarium salt there are two frames of mind, some people use it as a preventive measure, while others will only use it when needed for treatment. When adding the salt if I am understanding right you are adding 2 tablespoons of salt each time you are doing a water change? If so this is too much when doing a partial water change, which about 30% is usually what is recommended although with livebearers I would do more like 40% in that size of a tank since they do produce alot of waste. Right now I am guessing that your salt concentration in water is too high, if I am understanding correctly how you are adding the salt to the tank. If so I would not add any more salt for awhile when doing water changes and let it become diluted out. I personally do not use salt in my tanks and my fish have been fine, and there are other members on this site who have been keeping fish for a long time now that don't use salt in their tanks either.
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