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Old 10-26-2011, 08:33 PM   #11
 
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If you add a black or any color you prefer of construction paper on the back, it is a nicer look, in my opinion. Keeps you from seeing cords in the back. I hope your daughter stays interested, or at least you do, as it sounds like you are. I find tanks in CL are usually posted under "general" but you can check under "pets" too, but often those might come with some fish. I just bought a nice, clean 30 gallon, with a nice looking black stand for $100 (I could have got it for less I think). She was selling it with a bunch of expensive goldfish (which I didn't want). She still sold me the tank. I didn't want any of the decorations or gravel, as I use sand. So, you can always negotiate to get what you want. Buying new is crazy, as the hobby itself gets expensive

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Old 10-26-2011, 08:39 PM   #12
 
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Bp I understand the budget think. I am the only one employed in my house and times are tough. I also understand you are trying to do right by your daughter. That's great! Especially when there are so many dads not there for their kids. Have seen it and heard some much about it. You stated you want to do right for the fish but on a budget. Here is what I suggest. Start using tap water, get some conditioner as suggested. Have your water checked(most fish stores will do this for free). Even if the water is clear doesn't mean it is clean.

My Otos where all in different tanks. I think most store just see them in as "algae eaters" and that's it. Also just keep in mind they only eat certain algae.

Thanks, Boredomb and thanks for the great advice!! I will follow your advice and also look for an inexpensive tank on craigslist and garage sales. I did look up about what kind of algae they like -- we had green stringy algae. He seems to be eating it up very happily. I did see some other algae-eating fish in the store -- they were all much bigger, in much bigger tanks. Pretty sure they were a different kind of fish though? I would certainly try to get our oto some friends if I get a bigger tank. :)
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:43 PM   #13
 
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If you add a black or any color you prefer of construction paper on the back, it is a nicer look, in my opinion. Keeps you from seeing cords in the back. I hope your daughter stays interested, or at least you do, as it sounds like you are. I find tanks in CL are usually posted under "general" but you can check under "pets" too, but often those might come with some fish. I just bought a nice, clean 30 gallon, with a nice looking black stand for $100 (I could have got it for less I think). She was selling it with a bunch of expensive goldfish (which I didn't want). She still sold me the tank. I didn't want any of the decorations or gravel, as I use sand. So, you can always negotiate to get what you want. Buying new is crazy, as the hobby itself gets expensive

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We definitely need to put something on the back. I've been so concerned about making sure the fish have whatever they need to be healthy that aesthetics has certainly taken a back seat so far. We put her Minnie Mouse light on for the photos, because it's the only light working in her room right now, and her room is dark (wanted enough light to show the fish), but a Minnie Mouse lamp in the background is not a good look!

I've found craigslist has really good bargains here -- I'll let you know what I find!
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:53 PM   #14
 
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I will try to put up a pic now! Here's one of the tank where you can see the two fish: Allie the algae-eating Oto is front and center on the glass; Lindsay the little Guppy is swimming in front of the pirate ship, to the right of the net. Here's another pic with my daughter admiring them, haha!

I live in Central California, so it's not too late here yet-- almost dinner time! :) I see you're in Sydney! (Never been to Australia...)



Thank you so much, Gwen, for the kind words and warm welcome -- checking craigslist is an awesome idea!!! I will do that. :)
Good pics.
There are 2 things I'd do with your tank (daughter's tank).
First, I'd get rid of the pebbles and put in a finer gravel type because you will find that any uneaten food will fall between the pebbles and will rot and pollute the water whereas uneaten food will just sit on top of the finer gravel and the fish will eat it.
Secondly, I reckon it needs a small green plastic plant, not one of those fluro coloured things.
Your daughter looks a real cutie, bet she winds you around her little fingers.
Yep, I live just north of Sydney and I have been to the U.S. a couple of times and enjoyed it immensely, spent a few weeks in L.A., and up and down the west coast and inland to Vegas and down to Mexico.
Lunch time on Thursday here, gotta go get something to eat.
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:59 PM   #15
 
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Good pics.
There are 2 things I'd do with your tank (daughter's tank).
First, I'd get rid of the pebbles and put in a finer gravel type because you will find that any uneaten food will fall between the pebbles and will rot and pollute the water whereas uneaten food will just sit on top of the finer gravel and the fish will eat it.
Secondly, I reckon it needs a small green plastic plant, not one of those fluro coloured things.
Your daughter looks a real cutie, bet she winds you around her little fingers.
Yep, I live just north of Sydney and I have been to the U.S. a couple of times and enjoyed it immensely, spent a few weeks in L.A., and up and down the west coast and inland to Vegas and down to Mexico.
Lunch time on Thursday here, gotta go get something to eat.
Good point about the pebbles -- I've noticed uneaten food floating down there and when I washed the pebbles today it stirred a lot of yucky old food up...smaller gravel and a small green plastic plant seem very do-able. :) Thanks again and enjoy your lunch! ~Barb

PS She is the baby of the family -- between her being the baby and having a very sweet disposition we pretty much do anything we can for her! :)

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Old 10-26-2011, 09:01 PM   #16
 
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You are right GwenInNM, the tank does need a background of some sort and even more right when you say it can become an expensive hobby.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:17 PM   #17
 
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Bp do you have a gravel siphon? That will help get the food out of the pebbles. Though as they said small gravel would be better.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:22 PM   #18
 
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Thanks, Boredomb and thanks for the great advice!! I will follow your advice and also look for an inexpensive tank on craigslist and garage sales. I did look up about what kind of algae they like -- we had green stringy algae. He seems to be eating it up very happily. I did see some other algae-eating fish in the store -- they were all much bigger, in much bigger tanks. Pretty sure they were a different kind of fish though? I would certainly try to get our oto some friends if I get a bigger tank. :)
They were different fish altogether mostly likely some form of the plecos. On the Otos I would try and get him use to eating algae waffers so he will have something to eat when and if you get the algae under control or gone.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:40 PM   #19
 
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Bp do you have a gravel siphon? That will help get the food out of the pebbles. Though as they said small gravel would be better.
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They were different fish altogether mostly likely some form of the plecos. On the Otos I would try and get him use to eating algae waffers so he will have something to eat when and if you get the algae under control or gone.
I wouldn't know a gravel siphon if it bit me! (No, don't have one!)

Okay, that's another thing I was worried about with the small tank, after I read a variety of the information articles here -- he might run out of algae and be hungry. He seems to be constantly chowing on it. I was even thinking to myself, that maybe I should not have tried so hard to clean it out today, if he's so crazy for it.

Maybe I can see if there's a better fish store in town, and I can get algae wafers for him to try. I went to the pet store that's just down the street for convenience but maybe there's a better place, because for all I know they'd sell me the wrong type of algae wafer! :)
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Old 10-26-2011, 10:00 PM   #20
 
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I wouldn't know a gravel siphon if it bit me! (No, don't have one!)

Okay, that's another thing I was worried about with the small tank, after I read a variety of the information articles here -- he might run out of algae and be hungry. He seems to be constantly chowing on it. I was even thinking to myself, that maybe I should not have tried so hard to clean it out today, if he's so crazy for it.

Maybe I can see if there's a better fish store in town, and I can get algae wafers for him to try. I went to the pet store that's just down the street for convenience but maybe there's a better place, because for all I know they'd sell me the wrong type of algae wafer! :)
When you go to the pet store next time. Which ever one, I have one good store here and that's it. LoL, Ask them about a gravel siphon, the smallest and cheapest will work in your case. Basically its a plastic tube with a bigger "cup" on one end. You put the "cup" (and I say cup for lack of a better word) into the tank/gravel and it siphons the water and particles/debris out of the gravel along with the water. Makes water changes easier too.
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