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Old 04-17-2010, 03:07 PM   #21
 
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Old 04-18-2010, 04:36 PM   #22
 
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It might also be that her slime coat got damaged in the accident. That may be allowing bacteria to go all om nom nom on her skin, making her peel. As anyone else would probably advise, do a water change. If she's sulking, maybe giver some treats or something to perk her up. Can you get pics of her?
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Old 04-18-2010, 04:37 PM   #23
 
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Also, PLEASE DO NOT shake the net. That may prolong her trauma plus that's kinda mean.
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Old 04-19-2010, 01:12 PM   #24
 
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Okay on the whole overstocked thing.... inches of fish is a very inaccurate way to calculate available space in your aquarium. For example lets look at these 2 1" fish: The dwarf puffer, who has a very high bioload and needs about 3-5g to itself and the endlers livebearer, who has a very low bioload and only needs about .25-.5g per fish.

So stocking according to how long the fish is is not a very accurate way of thinking. In order to more accurately check whether you are ovestocked and how you can fix it, I recommend you plug your tank stats into aqadvisor.com.


Now about the fish: you will really want to make a post in the disease section. There is absolutely NO way even the most experienced fish keepers can give you a 100% certain diagnosis without knowing your ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH levels, knowing your tank maintenance schedule and seeing a picture.

We're not fish psychics... when you give us little to no background information we can't give you a straightforward yes-or-no answer.
You're right...inches of fish does little to account for overall mass and respiration/filtration needs. Of course, if you have a puffer in a 5 gallon, that is too little space for it. And we all know that there really aren't any acceptable tankmates for it anyway. Endlers are very small fish, mostly finnage and very little body mass. They aren't exactly known for high waste output.

Bioload is less a concern for space as it is for surface area for bacterial colonies to grow on.

According to aqadvisor, every single aquarium I've ever owned has been overstocked. And, in reality, that has never been the case. Additionally, the aquariums for several experienced, renowned and successful keepers that I've known (or have learned about from detailed articles/books that I've read), are seriously overstocked according to aqadvisor. So, in the end, it would seem to be just as inaccurate as any other means of estimating how many fish can be stocked into an aquarium.

The best way to know how many fish your aquarium can hold is to stock very slowly, and continually monitor conditions and behavior. Trial and error is the most accurate determination of "capacity" known yet!
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Old 04-20-2010, 01:48 PM   #25
 
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According to aqadvisor, every single aquarium I've ever owned has been overstocked. And, in reality, that has never been the case. Additionally, the aquariums for several experienced, renowned and successful keepers that I've known (or have learned about from detailed articles/books that I've read), are seriously overstocked according to aqadvisor. So, in the end, it would seem to be just as inaccurate as any other means of estimating how many fish can be stocked into an aquarium.

The best way to know how many fish your aquarium can hold is to stock very slowly, and continually monitor conditions and behavior. Trial and error is the most accurate determination of "capacity" known yet!
We already discussed this topic on another thread so I won't repeat what I said word by word but at the end, a working stocking level is a range. People with experiences tend to be able to get away with far more than beginners can. The goal of AqAdvisor was to help out beginners. I also own tanks that are rated at 140% and kept them for years but I am doing an appropriate level of maintenance as well.

The problem with introducing species slowly is that you already need to know which ones you are introducing. If you chose a wrong species to begin with, then the speed of introduction won't help. Plus, many species don't show their true behavior until they are grown up so again, unless they are introduced really slowly (like 1 year apart), it won't help in these cases. But I do agree that if you already have a list of compatible species appropriate for your tank, this obviously is the way to go.

Just to give you an example, I have a 20g tank with a colony of J Transcriptus and L Stappersi. Usually this is a BIG no no. But I have ridiculous amount of Java moss that practically divides the tank in such a way that they don't cause issues with each other along with the usual rock work and shells. As you can see, with experiment, you can bend the rules, but I would not suggest this to beginners - it is a recipe for disaster.
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:46 PM   #26
 
Well my fish has amazingly recovered and is doing fine. All y fish are happy and healthy. Thank goodness she is ok
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Old 04-20-2010, 04:47 PM   #27
 
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Well my fish has amazingly recovered and is doing fine. All y fish are happy and healthy. Thank goodness she is ok
Excellent!
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:23 PM   #28
 
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We already discussed this topic on another thread so I won't repeat what I said word by word but at the end, a working stocking level is a range. People with experiences tend to be able to get away with far more than beginners can. The goal of AqAdvisor was to help out beginners. I also own tanks that are rated at 140% and kept them for years but I am doing an appropriate level of maintenance as well.

The problem with introducing species slowly is that you already need to know which ones you are introducing. If you chose a wrong species to begin with, then the speed of introduction won't help. Plus, many species don't show their true behavior until they are grown up so again, unless they are introduced really slowly (like 1 year apart), it won't help in these cases. But I do agree that if you already have a list of compatible species appropriate for your tank, this obviously is the way to go.

Just to give you an example, I have a 20g tank with a colony of J Transcriptus and L Stappersi. Usually this is a BIG no no. But I have ridiculous amount of Java moss that practically divides the tank in such a way that they don't cause issues with each other along with the usual rock work and shells. As you can see, with experiment, you can bend the rules, but I would not suggest this to beginners - it is a recipe for disaster.
Yes, yhbae, I've learned a new appreciation for your tool. Again, I appreciate you taking the time to discuss the intent of aqadvisor with me!
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:26 PM   #29
 
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Yes, yhbae, I've learned a new appreciation for your tool. Again, I appreciate you taking the time to discuss the intent of aqadvisor with me!
Welcome, and I am glad that we are still on a good term.
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