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post #11 of 18 Old 09-14-2013, 10:48 AM
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So even though the donor tank has 2 established filters on it I still have to worry, what about all my bacteria in sand and on plants, objects. I think my mature filter will be just fine.
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All the bacteria in the rest of the tank just means that the colonies living in the filters are weaker, so in practice moving one of the filters over to the new tank will not even be able to initially handle half the bioload of your current tank. I say initially because any deficit should be overcome in a weeks time.

When I take media from a filter, I increase my feedings for a week to build up the bacteria colony. After I take media from a tank, I fast the tank for a couple days to allow things to balance back out.

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All the bacteria in the rest of the tank just means that the colonies living in the filters are weaker, so in practice moving one of the filters over to the new tank will not even be able to initially handle half the bioload of your current tank. I say initially because any deficit should be overcome in a weeks time.

When I take media from a filter, I increase my feedings for a week to build up the bacteria colony. After I take media from a tank, I fast the tank for a couple days to allow things to balance back out.
Ok, I'm getting confused now. So you're saying if I move one of the mature filters to the new tank I'm going to screw up the old tank, even though I was I was only running 2 filters just in case one failed.

Keep in mind I have a lot of water sprite floating in the old tank.
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Yes, moving the filter over to the other tank will create a deficit in the donor tank. That deficit will be taken up though, as tolak mentioned. Ideally you would move over enough media to get the new tank started with one group of fish, like boredom mentioned, while only minimally impacting the donor tank, such that a couple days of Dosing with water conditioner will take care of it. That time it takes to make up the difference is called the lag time.

Your purpose for running two filters has no impact on the distribution of bacteria in the tank.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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Yes, moving the filter over to the other tank will create a deficit in the donor tank. That deficit will be taken up though, as tolak mentioned. Ideally you would move over enough media to get the new tank started with one group of fish, like boredom mentioned, while only minimally impacting the donor tank, such that a couple days of Dosing with water conditioner will take care of it. That time it takes to make up the difference is called the lag time.

Your purpose for running two filters has no impact on the distribution of bacteria in the tank.
A couple days? So maybe just do an extra water change during the week? I do 75% water changes weekly anyways, I could just do another one.
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post #15 of 18 Old 09-14-2013, 11:32 AM
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If you were so inclined. As tolak mentioned you can just add conditioner for a couple of days, since the bacteria can double in size in a day - very slow by bacteria standards.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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The water changes & doubling of conditioner are more of a precautionary measure when dealing with a mature filter & cloning. Erring on the side of caution won't hurt, fish won't complain about fresh water.
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post #17 of 18 Old 09-15-2013, 07:10 AM
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guppy cycling tank

hi guys im tr;ying to figure out how I can somewhat speed up the cycling process of a 10G tank that I hope to have somewhat heavily planted and have a guppy breeding project. I currently have a tank up and running for nnine months if I could use the filter from that tank and use the bacteria starter and put in the plants and put in some of the guppies lik or 3 or 4 thanks
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post #18 of 18 Old 09-15-2013, 10:01 AM
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What's the make & model on the filter of the tank you have running, what size is the tank & what's the stocking? What's the make & model of the new tank's filter?
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