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Old 03-22-2014, 06:21 AM   #41
 
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Stress damaging the slime coat is a new one to me. I'll ask the rest of the reference team if they've ever heard of that. A fish with a damaged slime coat is probably stressed, but I don't think that stress in and of itself causes damage to the slime coat. As with the use of salt, the stress of the salt causes the fish to overproduce slime. It's a natural response to a lot of noxious external stimuli - to overproduce slime. I wouldn't say that that's damaging the slime, though it does take a toll on the fishs health long term. The energy and resources required to overproduce slime could be better spent in just about any other way. Not that the salt is an issue with the OP and their live bearers.

I didn't mistake anything - I understand exactly what you said and what you continue to say. It just needed some clarification. I'm going to reiterate the fact that you can only get ich if it's been introduced to your tank, and if you rid the tank of ich then no matter what the fish are subjected to they will not get it. You can cram 100 fish into a 10 gallon and as long as none of them are carrying the parasite, none of them will get ich. They'll die from other diseases no doubt.

OP - ich is extremely easy to treat - the best way to cure ich is to simply raise the temperature to at least 86 for 2 weeks. It's as simple as that. I would go ahead and do that if I were you. It's really difficult to treat for multiple ailments at once, and should your fish be weakened to the point of succumbing to some disease, if there is ich in your tank the fish will get it.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:44 AM   #42
 
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Ich and slime coats is somewhat off-topic to this thread, but since you've mentioned it, my understanding is that stress does have a negative impact on the slime coat of a fish. Those who are interested in learning more may wish to begin by checking out this article on stress. Follow the references listed at the end for more information if you wish. :)
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:52 AM   #43
 
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That must be where the obsession with salt comes from.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:54 AM   #44
 
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Hey, Punky! A slightly belated welcome to TFK. . .

I also started not so long ago with a 10g - stocked with Mollies, guppies, and a common Plec. I'm no expert on fish ID, but the fish you have pictured above looks a lot like mine did, so my guess is that he's a common, and going to get too big for your tank, too. :/

Unfortunately, it's a sad fact that many of us have been led astray by not-so-good advice from chain shop fish departments and well-intentioned friends and family in the past. . .
I agree with the others in that you should definitely do a bit more research into the fish you have. It didn't take me very long to figure out that I had been terribly misled, and my fish were suffering because of it. Luckily, I was able to rehome many of my fish, and upgrade the others into a 29g. The guppies did okay in the 10g, but even they enjoyed the extra space of a larger tank.

As far as the fry are concerned - congratulations!!! You can't go wrong with more plants - the more places there are to hide, the better the survival rate for the babies. Live plants can also have a positive impact on the water quality in any tank. As has been mentioned, you'll want start looking for a new home for the surviving babies. Livebearers like Mollies and Guppies are notorious for having a lot of babies... constantly! They're a lot of fun to keep, but will definitely overstock a tank in a very short time, if left to their own devices - and yours is already overstocked to begin with.

I hope you find a way to work things out in a way that will be best for the animals under your care, and easy on your budget. I know it's hard to give away fish that you've spent money on, but it's also hard to watch them suffer in situations that aren't healthy for them. . . I have found a properly stocked tank with healthy animals well- suited to its size to be a beautiful thing!

It looks as if your original questions have been answered several times over, so I'm going to call this thread closed. I encourage you to continue your learning about the animals you keep, and feel free to post additional questions up on their own threads.

Best of luck! And happy tanking! ^__^
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