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post #1 of 37 Old 10-17-2010, 03:35 PM Thread Starter
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got my endlers wooo!!! :)

went to the pet shop tday and got 3 male 7 female and 3 fry that were in the tank :)
il get pics asap

i got 2 wild type colours and a blue endler (i think its a hybrid)
and the females are colourless

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post #2 of 37 Old 10-17-2010, 05:56 PM
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I'm really interested in the blue one, they're usually called Japan blue endlers/endler hybrids and look incredible. I'm looking into the genetics of this blue colouration and if I remember correctly it's linked to the pink gene.

As it happens the majority of endlers you'll buy in shops are not pure wild stock but have some other genes mixed in. Having said that I'm increasingly of the belief that they are just a particularly unique strain of wild Guppy rather than a different species so perhaps the term hybrid may not be entirely accurate.

I look forward to seeing the pics. Good luck, they're very hard to photograph.
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post #3 of 37 Old 10-17-2010, 08:31 PM
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My lfs calls the blue ones, japenese blue swordtail guppys, I am pretty sure my fry are cross bred with them so I will probably sell them and make sure my endlers stay as purebred as they can be.
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post #4 of 37 Old 10-18-2010, 02:44 AM Thread Starter
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yes iv been looking on line and its identical to the japan bleu but iv seen it called a jamacan blue endler....hes not interested in the females tho but i woke up this morning to 4 fry :D:D:D

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post #5 of 37 Old 10-18-2010, 06:23 PM
OMG! congrats!!!!!!!!!! if only i lived by u!!! thats alot of fish lol! :D

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post #6 of 37 Old 10-18-2010, 08:57 PM
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I'm really interested in the blue one, they're usually called Japan blue endlers/endler hybrids and look incredible. I'm looking into the genetics of this blue colouration and if I remember correctly it's linked to the pink gene.

As it happens the majority of endlers you'll buy in shops are not pure wild stock but have some other genes mixed in. Having said that I'm increasingly of the belief that they are just a particularly unique strain of wild Guppy rather than a different species so perhaps the term hybrid may not be entirely accurate.

I look forward to seeing the pics. Good luck, they're very hard to photograph.
Sorry, but I disagree. A pure bred endler, a wild type guppy, and a hybrid endler/guppy are all quite different in appearance.

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post #7 of 37 Old 10-18-2010, 09:14 PM
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Wow lots of fish :D
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post #8 of 37 Old 10-19-2010, 03:12 AM Thread Starter
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i still think its a hybrid, but i dnt think il get fry from him, iv never seen him try mate with the females :):):)

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post #9 of 37 Old 10-19-2010, 03:54 AM
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Sorry, but I disagree. A pure bred endler, a wild type guppy, and a hybrid endler/guppy are all quite different in appearance.
There are more that disagree with me than agree so no problem. It is just semantics after all and they are very closely related so whether they a seperate species, a sub-species or regional variant it doesn't really matter too much to me. The classification of species is something science has never perfected, there are lots of grey areas. I'll always treat them as just another type of Guppy because to all intents and purposes that's what they are.
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post #10 of 37 Old 10-19-2010, 04:01 AM
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i still think its a hybrid, but i dnt think il get fry from him, iv never seen him try mate with the females :):):)
Oh you will at some point. I've found that some males will only try to mate with particular females, I've found that some of my endlers won't attempt to mate with larger fancy females although they will with the more juvenile ones.

If you really want to breed him you can seperate him with 2-3 juvenile females and when they become sexually mature he will almost certainly breed with them, I'd put money on it.
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