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post #11 of 24 Old 04-03-2013, 08:37 PM
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It does sound like Columnaris :( Keep the water as clean as possible with frequent water changes and if you can't readily get your hands on Kanaples, you can try Furan II or Kanamycin.

I hope you're able to save some of your fish but if it's really advanced, it might be hard to get them well again.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers.
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post #12 of 24 Old 04-03-2013, 09:23 PM Thread Starter
Roland, if it is columnaris... and one that is infected has babies, won't the babies have it? even if I remove them immediately after birth? and how did It get into my tank? I am pretty good about checking my levels, keeping new fish quarantined .... doing regular water changes..??????

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post #13 of 24 Old 04-03-2013, 09:26 PM Thread Starter
I will call the lfs that I use and see if they or anyone has any.....
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post #14 of 24 Old 04-03-2013, 09:45 PM Thread Starter
Sorry I meant Romad... Not Roland.....
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post #15 of 24 Old 04-03-2013, 11:27 PM
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Hi hallie... Oh no! I might be talking nonsense, but can it be that there is too much chlorine in the water? (I didn't see you test for that)... might be a stupid suggestion, though...
I just can't imagine how bad this is :( good luck!
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post #16 of 24 Old 04-04-2013, 02:31 PM Thread Starter
no clorine..... at all..... it is as if something has invaded the tank..... I lost another one yesterday and again today..... I did buy another guppy yesterday, but I put it in a tank that I had just finished cycling..... was going to put my babies in it, but won't until I know that they are safe from whatever has infected my community tank.
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post #17 of 24 Old 04-04-2013, 08:07 PM
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I know this doesn't help any, but my balloon Molly had fry during my Columnaris outbreak, and I was able to save six before they got eaten. Guess what? They all lived! Even with the tank being treated, and they're still alive to this day, and doing very well. So its not guaranteed you'll lose your fry. Some fish just seem more resistant than others. I can't figure out the Columnaris, since its so insidious, and you never know when its going to attack again, or who will be affected. I'm still on pins and needles about my tank. They say it flares up when the weather gets warmer. If that's the case, I'm in trouble. I never treated my big tank (55 gal), just my hospital tank. I put the "sickies" in there and treated them. Even so, I lost about half my fish. So I guess this means the Columnaris is still dormant in my big tank, waiting for the weather to warm up. I sure hope not.... Its so nasty, and so hard to get rid of, even with meds. Only way to get rid of it for sure is to break down the tank and use bleach on everything, and let it sit in the sun for a few days, and start all over. I sure hope you or I don't have to do that. Please keep us posted.

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post #18 of 24 Old 04-05-2013, 03:57 PM
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Do you still have surviving fish (other than the fry) in the original tank?

For the fry, I'd get a 10 gallon kit if you can - all you'd need is a heater and thermometer after that. Don't forget to get them some fry food and baby brine shrimp. You'll also need to put a sponge or mesh over the filter intake tube in the fry tank so they don't get sucked into it.

I'd put the fry in the 10 gallon, treat the sick tank and see if you can save any of the sick fish if it isn't too late.

Animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers.
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post #19 of 24 Old 04-06-2013, 04:35 AM Thread Starter
I do have some surviving, although not sure if they will for long, I am battling a massive ammonia spike right now in the community tank..... I already have the fry in a 20 gal, along with the platy fry, they are doing well... I added some moss to the tank yesterday to help with the load it has.... as for my community tank, looks like I am going to lose all the guppies.... I just lost my favorite during the night.... but then I knew he was dying for sure when he was swimming upside down .... in circles and going under things.... I checked my parameters yesterday and the ammo. was out of this world, so did a massive water change and got it down to .25 , added some ammo-lock till I could get home today and do another water change to get it all the way down, but it seems to spike back up after a few hrs. Not sure what is going on in the tank, mini cycle or what? just don't know. But I will keep trying until they are gone I guess.... then start over with a fresh clean tank. Just not sure if I bleach it out if that will kill off whatever is killing them.... I HATE THIS!!!!!!!!
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post #20 of 24 Old 04-06-2013, 06:32 AM
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I know :( Hang in there. Get some Seachem Prime conditioner and double or triple dose it in the tank that has the ammonia spike and keep doing water changes until you can get the ammonia under control.

If you do lose all of the fish and have to start over with the community tank, I would discard all of the gravel, filter media and plants. Everything else can be washed with bleach solution and rinsed a bunch of times afterwards.

Sorry that you're going through this :(

Animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers.
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