Evil Male Mollie...

joeshmoe

my mollies did that i gave up and and gave him away

Baka1216

Lost our second angel to this just this morning. Test strips indicate optimal water conditions but since those are oh so reliable I went hunting for our chemical tests and such but it seems they were damaged in our move. The ph test seemed usuable and I've found the ph to be a bit high as far as angels go but nothing that would directly cause problems. Currently trying to contact a few stores/friends nearby for a replacement and will be able to post something with enough information (and possibly pictures) sometime later today.

The good news is that our male mollie has given up his odd obsession literally overnight. He's back to constantly harrassing one female or the other. I thank you for your help (Blue) with the mollie. You kept me from flushing the oddball. *heh* Also thanks for the reply from joeshmoe. A problem can seem better just from it being relatable. Ja ne until I can bother more people with our angel issues. :D

Lupin

How high is your pH?:) I find it odd you're losing those angels when they are very hardy.

Baka1216

Test this afternoon said 7.6. We usually run a magnum with a rigged up peat filter to make it more acidic but due to this odd illness haven't for almost two weeks of medications, cleanings, and water changes. This sort of thing is fun to deal with during christmas, too. Yelling, cleaning, shopping, blah blah blah. We've treated for basic fungus and parasites but so far just the two dead fish and at least five others showing signs of this whatever it is.
It's hard to pin down. The fish behavior hasn't changed much. No rubbing, darting, spinning, hiding. It starts as a film along the top of the body. White in color but not patchy or cottony in any way. I figured it was either a fungus or a slime coat parasite of some sort. Some meds, a water change, and a little cleaning and it proved much more annoying. It seems to borrow bits and pieces from different diseases and not respond to treatments for any. The thing that's most annoying to me is the fact it's only hitting our angels. One of our red minor tetras had actually gashed his side, seemd quite bad if not fatal to the little thing, but not only did the wound not grow any fungus or decay it healed quite fast. The bugger zips around the tank as if he hadn't almost killed himself. Probably a week ago now.
It seems to hit the more inbred types much harder. Like the black veil that died first. We actually have an altum, which is what I'm most worried about, but he has no outward signs of anything. So far. Oi, now I need to knock on wood.
If I had the time I'd just do a scrape on one of the affected fish but time is impossible to find right now. Plus I'd have to find our microscope, in whichever box it's in. I'm almost ready to throw in the towel and just tell the "Boss" to fix it himself. I'm not a fish doc after all.

Lupin

7.6 is IMO not a problem. pH doesn't matter at all unless you see pH swings caused by low KH(carbonate hardness).
You should not touch the pH. You have to remove the peat I'm afraid. Your mollies will eventually suffer when the pH becomes too low. The reason why you were not able to lower the pH is you may have very high KH making it impossible for you to lower the pH but let's not touch the pH. There's no reason to lower the pH unless your fish really requires that.

As for meds, what medicines were you using? Do you remove the med before using another? If you don't, use activated carbon to remove the treatment. IMO, the danger lies more on stress as you could be mixing the treatments without removing the one you have used before resorting to another.

Pls try to figure out your ammonia, nitrties and nitrates.:)
The film sounds like slime coat. You should not use treatments until you figure out what disease is exactly hitting them.
How did you figure out your angels are inbred? It would be nice if your supplier did mention about the parents being related to each other or rather part of the family.

Inbreeding can happen if the parents are siblings or relatives.