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post #11 of 17 Old 04-10-2014, 08:50 AM Thread Starter
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Will hikari first bites powder work for feeding the babies?

And yeah, I've noticed how delicate they can be. I still try hard. I do want a colony...but I also want some for food for my crayfish, but healthy ones who get a good life until then, if then ever even comes(he has trouble catching them lol I have six who have been living with him for a couple weeks now, only one has he gotten).



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post #12 of 17 Old 04-10-2014, 09:19 AM
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I know, it sucks when they die and you try your best for everything to go right--been there done that an am still doing it unfortunately :-/

I would go with actual Spirulina powder which you can buy here: http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/aucti...odo&1397178606 very cheap and easy to use, it's much healthier than other foods as it doesn't contain fillers. I'm not sure the pure effects of fillers on Shrimp but if it's anything like fish, dogs and cats; it decreases digestibility and the more fillers the company uses the more cheaper and more crap the food is. Fillers are anything Wheat, Corn or Soybean, Wheat is commonly used as a binding agent but none of these should be in the first two ingredients of the food even better if they aren't in the third but most if not all foods have their third ingredient as a whole wheat meal or something similar. Again, I don't know if this really effects shrimp adversely in any sort but just giving you info on the fish sides of things if you weren't aware which I have a feeling you might be, but just in case ^_^
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post #13 of 17 Old 04-10-2014, 10:20 AM
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Ghost shrimp, glass shrimp, and grass shrimp are all the same. Usually they are used for Palaemonetes paludosus. Some of the confusion in this thread about multiple species might be due to young Macrobrachium looking similar. Due to wild collecting (ghost shrimp are collected and not bred) and mix-ups in wholesale, people have gotten the long-arm shrimp instead of the ghost shrimp they thought they were buying. Mishandling during collection and at other stages before the shrimp reach the hobbyist are the reason such an otherwise hardy species is prone to high initial deaths.

Ghost shrimp larvae do not require brackish conditions. Many other lower order shrimp like Amanos and bamboos have larvae that do, so that might be the reason for that misconception.
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That probably is, thanks for chiming in BWG It's always appreciated.

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post #15 of 17 Old 07-18-2014, 02:02 PM Thread Starter
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Hey, hey, I found my first babies. I knew several of my girls were berried for a time there, but I didn't think any of the kids survived. I found three, but if there are three there are surely more since it's so densely planted in there it'd be impossible to count them. I spotted them only because one fled a snail going for food.
I dunno if you can see them very well...tiny ghosts are really hard to see. c.c

First one is about the same, maybe smaller, than a 3/4 inch trumpet snail. lol Second one is much smaller. A third one is as big as the first, I'm thinking multiple broods since I did have about six females pop...of course I never did see anything. Oddly enough, I've had several die after going white...the rest however, the ones I purchased that were smaller, are doing just fine, as are the babies. Not even a tiny white mark on them, they look great. Most of them lived a few months before they had issues too....I'm hoping it's old age and not me doing something wrong, but what causes them to go white and then die?





I'll point them out in the same photos here...it's a little better, it doesn't look as pointed out as I thought it did, I circled them. =)





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post #16 of 17 Old 07-19-2014, 02:13 AM
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They do turn milky when they are getting ready to molt. If they are dying soon after, it could be a number of things. The first to come to mind is quality/genetics.The other thing that may be happening, is a possible nutritional deficiency. Calcium and iodine are the most common and both can have an impact on the molting process. Other than that the only other thing that comes to mind is water parameters and % of water changed at a time. Knowing you, that should not be the problem.

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They do turn milky when they are getting ready to molt. If they are dying soon after, it could be a number of things. The first to come to mind is quality/genetics.The other thing that may be happening, is a possible nutritional deficiency. Calcium and iodine are the most common and both can have an impact on the molting process. Other than that the only other thing that comes to mind is water parameters and % of water changed at a time. Knowing you, that should not be the problem.
It's not so much milky as they get solid white and then die. They don't molt before they do either. I had one I popped into a net when it was having issues, turned white and wasn't moving much...it turned blue when it died. Never shed. Perhaps they are having trouble actually getting it off and that's what's killing them?

As for genetics, I have no idea, they were purchased at petco and petsmart. I could get them at Neptunes, but they have MANY as feeders and probably have worse genetics than the ones at petco and petsmart who only get in a few at a time and sell them for more(they sell them as pets and not feeders, so I assume they're at least a little better bred). They usually have about five hundred in a twenty gallon tank. I do not want to get feeder there. They usually have well cared for animals, but as most shops do, they don't seem to care about feeders....which is very stupid of them, obviously, since they risk killing other peoples fish/turtles/whatever they feed them to. lol

Calcium...I have cuttlebones in there and try to feed them a good diet. About once a week I put in a little mysis shrimp hoping they'll get some more calcium from them. I've had less problems since I started doing that, with both them and snails who were also having some issues, and recently put in a new chunk of cuttlebone. So far any newborns or ones that have been there less than two months seem to be doing epic. But over time I assume there'll be issues. I don't think my water is hard enough for shelled creatures. x.x It's only 10-11 DGH. PH is 7.2, and unfortunately I don't have a tester for KH, Hardness I got from my water company, same reason. Ammonia and nitrates/nitrites are all usually stable at zero.

For the most part I feed them Veggie flakes and Hikari or Omega One Algae Wafers, also put in Emerald Entree for my fish fry and they enjoy the greens often. Once a week it's mysis or brine shrimp, usually mysis since they seem to have better shells...



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