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post #11 of 25 Old 01-17-2012, 09:35 AM Thread Starter
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How often would you recommend doing this in a 15g tank with the MTS and an Apple Snail? How significant is the clouding? Thanks!


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post #12 of 25 Old 01-17-2012, 10:57 AM
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Try half the tab only. I had only two inches visibility when it clouded the tank. Had to do a water change since I hate the effect. 3x a week is fine. I did daily before.

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Try half the tab only. I had only two inches visibility when it clouded the tank. Had to do a water change since I hate the effect. 3x a week is fine. I did daily before.
I'm more concerned with the health of the tank's inhabitants than I am with aesthetics, but the attractiveness of the aquarium is still a big part of the reason I enjoy having it so much. 2 inches of visibility 3x a week doesn't sound very good to me. My water is fairly hard and I feed the Apple Snail blanched veggies (I suppose the MTS dine on these as well), so do you think I can get away without the supplements? Or am I asking for trouble? If shell erosion does start to become an issue, will the MTS show warning symptoms before the Apple Snail (sort of like the proverbial canary in the coal mine)? Thanks!


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+1 on the tums tabs.

I used them also... but after having a cloudy tank I dissolved them separately in a glass then added to the tank. It still went cloudy but directly adding it was a bit of a shock for me.

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post #15 of 25 Old 01-18-2012, 04:20 AM
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If your water is fairly hard, the slightly elevated hardness is still not a problem to your fish since by this time, they are already accustomed to it. This is very much applicable to all fish found in hard alkaline water conditions.

And MTS suffering insufficient calcium will have white tips around their shells. This is reversible. Shell erosion among apple snails however is not especially around the tip end of their shells.

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If your water is fairly hard, the slightly elevated hardness is still not a problem to your fish since by this time, they are already accustomed to it. This is very much applicable to all fish found in hard alkaline water conditions.

And MTS suffering insufficient calcium will have white tips around their shells. This is reversible. Shell erosion among apple snails however is not especially around the tip end of their shells.
Uh oh! Noticed this morning that a couple of my MTS did have white tips on their shells. I can't say for sure that they didn't have them when I got them from the LFS however, as I wasn't looking for it until now. Nevertheless, I want to make sure I'm looking out for them.

I've been feeding blanched vegetables (romaine, spinach, cucumber) and the Apple Snail devours them, but I don't see the MTS taking advantage (possibly because I'm not observing after dark). I want to supplement with additional calcium, but I have a couple concerns about the methods I've encountered:

1) Tums: I'd prefer to avoid the cloudy water you've mentioned above.

2) Calcium pills: Same problem as Tums? I haven't seen it mentioned, but it stands to reason they'd cloud the water as well.

3) Cuttlebone: Cloudy water seems not to be a problem, but my water is already hard and basic. I don't want to elevate the levels too much, as I've read can happen.

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cuttle bone is excellent if you can get it. a HUGE ^5 (high 5) on that idea. I can't get any in my area but it is always worth it to add to a tank.

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My current parameters:
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 10ppm
GH: 250
KH: 180
pH: 7.8

Given the elevated pH and especially GH, I'm concerned that any attempt I make to bolster calcium might also increase pH and Hardness. Thoughts here?


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Figured I might be overreacting (wouldn't be the first time), and that posting a couple pics for the experts wouldn't be a bad idea. I was only able to find this one MTS perched against the glass. Tail tip is indicative of the two I spotted this morning.



A nice shell shot of the Apple Snail. Anything to worry about here?


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My current parameters:
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 10ppm
GH: 250
KH: 180
pH: 7.8

Given the elevated pH and especially GH, I'm concerned that any attempt I make to bolster calcium might also increase pH and Hardness. Thoughts here?
Give caltrate a try. It wont cloud water as badly as tums.

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