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Old 12-05-2008, 05:13 AM   #41
 
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Please forgive me for not going back through all posts but has anyone tried HIKARI's CRAB CUISINE?
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:48 PM   #42
 
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Please forgive me for not going back through all posts but has anyone tried HIKARI's CRAB CUISINE?
Not yet but I am interested to try that one. Thank you for the heads up.

I found some information here.
Hikari info : Hikari Tropical CRAB CUISINE
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Old 01-09-2009, 10:53 AM   #43
 
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Just to add more information...The spires if damaged cannot be fixed. The damage is permanent but this can be minimized by keeping your pH and KH consistently high. Acidic water by low pH is often responsible for the damage. Low KH can cause the pH to swing and this may have dire consequences to the shells, something you should watch out for.

As for the mantle, they can still be repaired if the damage is not severe. Thick shell growth can be accomplished by lowering the temperature to slow down their growth. It is not really a bad thing and in fact, the thicker the shell, the less likely the shell is damaged. Severely damaged shells may need nail polish coating but be careful not to put the chemical in contact with the soft body parts as it can burn their skin and possibly kill them. Here are the procedures of how to apply nail polish on the shell.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:06 AM   #44
 
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Are the 3 day feeders ok to use? And how often should I add them? Once a week or so, or as soon as one dissoves add another?
This is an old post however the answer will be given for future reference. Any food with plaster of Paris will alter the water chemistry by increasing the pH and hardness levels so make sure your fish can tolerate it otherwise they become more prone to bacterial infections. Snails are another story. They are fine and because of high calcium demand, any food containing plaster of Paris will prove more than beneficial to the snails. For as long as the food is eaten quickly, another one can be added with no issues.

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could TUMS work?

kind of an odd question i know.
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I'd worry about the flavoring, but I'm curious what others have to say.
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I don't know about TUMS. I've read on another forum that people have done it, but I don't know if it really is a good idea or not. I don't have enough knowledge about it.
The answer may be missed so I thought I'd recollect all the quotes and point the answer below. I bought a few dozens of Tums for daily dosing on my snail tanks which I expanded in number to accommodate the growing number of snails. Flavors available in strawberry, lemon, lime and orange.

More findings reveal the unflavored ones are ignored and for a very obvious reason, they are not sugary which attract the snails more but too much sugar may be responsible for clouding the tank as evident by my accidental overdosing of honey in a snail jello recipe although the snails remained unfazed at all.

Here are the ingredients of Tums after a thorough research as the package never included it at all which makes it frustrating for me to hunt down the ingredients to determine whether it has anything that may harm the snails. Tums is okay for use.
Sucrose, calcium carbonate 1000mg, corn starch, talc, mineral oil, adipic acid, artificial flavors, sodium polyphosphate, red 40 lake, blue 1 lake.
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As an update, I tried another calcium brand, Tums. It has added strawberry or orange flavoring but the snails went for it. No ingredients added other than the pure calcium carbonate and flavoring. It took the canas only an hour to finish them off but the canas are very large anyway. It took about 2 hours for the 16-20 brigs to finish them. Tums doesn't disintegrate quickly compared to Caltrate. Will test calci-aid and calsan if I can find these ones.
Personal view from a member in another forum I am a member of towards peppermint flavored Tums.
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I'd be cautious with any peppermint flavored ones. Peppermint oil has side effects on its own, in large amounts. Since they're dosed for humans, I'd be careful of it with the much smaller snails. Plus, a lot of the time peppermint flavored junk will actually "burn" your mouth, imagine a snail crawling on it.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:10 AM   #45
 
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The following remain untested for possible side effects although theories are included:
Setlers antacid: calcium carbonate, also contains Sucrose, dextrose, maise starch, talc, magnesium stearate, peppermint flavour, adipic acid.

Gaviscon cool: 250mg sodium alginate, 133.5mg sodium bicarbonate, 80mg calcium carbonate as active ingredients, also contains xylitol, mannitol (e132) polyethylene glycol 20,000, aspartame (E951), magnesium stearate, and peppermint flavouring and colour (E132)

The peppermint flavor has been pointed to be the issue however per the previous post so chances are this may not be suitable for use at all.

I have yet to research other brands thoroughly and test them due to lack of time. This includes Calsan and Calci-Aid. Can anyone please forward me the list of ingredients these brands have? Thanks.
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Old 02-22-2009, 01:58 PM   #46
 
Question my brown mystery snail

I have had my snail for a while now and when i got him he had an undamaged shell, now he ha multiple line like cracks and dents and holes in his shell. you mentioned calcium as a reason for this, i was wondering how to get my snail calcium or if it is too late.

i am also confused because i have now 3 other snails one a very new addition, another newer, and the last was bought with the now damaged snail. the reason i am confused is because the one i bought with the damaged one is not showing the same signs in his shell. if any body knows of some sort of calcium supplement i can add or even another way to save my snail, that would be great. the picture i ave is not that detailed but here it is
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I have had my snail for a while now and when i got him he had an undamaged shell, now he ha multiple line like cracks and dents and holes in his shell. you mentioned calcium as a reason for this, i was wondering how to get my snail calcium or if it is too late.

i am also confused because i have now 3 other snails one a very new addition, another newer, and the last was bought with the now damaged snail. the reason i am confused is because the one i bought with the damaged one is not showing the same signs in his shell. if any body knows of some sort of calcium supplement i can add or even another way to save my snail, that would be great. the picture i ave is not that detailed but here it is
Welcome to Fishforum.com, Snailor!

Could you please repost the pic? It is not working. What are your pH and KH? Try giving Caltrate with Vitamin D to enhance calcium absorption, then proceed to Tums or pure Caltrate (without Vitamin D). Stick with calcium enriched foods such as collards and seaweeds. You can also make plaster of Paris pucks. Search my threads for the recipes.
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Old 02-23-2009, 05:46 AM   #48
 
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that link should work. its not a great picture. you i could do a plaster of paris tablet, is that safe? and for the more calcium rich food, could i get any of those at a petsmart or anything like that? thank you for the help
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:11 AM   #49
 
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Here's everything that will answer your questions. Veggies can be found in grocery stores.
http://www.fishforum.com/invertebrat...-recipe-19455/
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Old 02-23-2009, 05:52 PM   #50
 
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Here's everything that will answer your questions. Veggies can be found in grocery stores.
http://www.fishforum.com/invertebrat...-recipe-19455/

thank you Lupin.
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