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Old 05-05-2011, 01:57 AM   #11
 
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You're too sweet. I am patient, if/when you get a productive clutch, I am here wanting to take them off your hands. I can't have too many mystery snails, lol.

As for what happened, there are so many possibilities... if the egg casing fell into the tank for any reason it would have broken down and rotted pretty quickly, becoming snail and fish food. You may not find anything left of it anymore now. It has been a long time since I have had mystery snails breeding and back then I used to remove them because I couldn't accommodate the young. Now that I want them and can accommodate them I am having a hard time finding enough that are healthy and affordable. Some of the casings I "removed" were simply scraped to drop into the tank and the fish would pick at and eat them, as did the snails, so they disappeared pretty fast.

I understand the frustration of an apartment, been there/done that yrs ago. I remember an inspection once, the landlord came in and looked around, told me "I said A fish tank was ok, not 20 of them". I had them on every flat surface in my apartment. He made me get rid of all but 2 tanks and I thought it would kill me til I was moved and able to set up more somewhere else. Hubby and I had a fish room in his parents basement when we got married, and then we bought this house about 4 yrs ago. We spent over a yr searching for a house to buy and the real estate guy thought we were nuts when we told him our main requirements were level floors, wall space for tanks, and sturdy foundation, lol. We looked at a lot of nice big houses that most people would have grabbed up in a hurry, but the floors weren't level enough to accommodate the many tanks we have, so we walked away. We ended up settling for a smaller house that met the rest of those needs, so I have my tanks, just not as many as I need and want. We have a basement not suitable for a fish room crammed full of empty tanks, and a storage unit that is mostly full of empty tanks as well. Some day I will have a heated fish barn to set them all up and more... I just have to be patient and keep working towards it.

Hubby and I also have talked about an indoor swimming pool (in ground) turned into a giant reef that we can swim in.... so that is on our list of dreams too. We figure if constructed the right way we could have a viewing window put into it on one side and build a room (our bedroom maybe) around it so we can watch it at night when things tend to be most active. If we went with skylight roof and planned it carefully, we could use sunlight for lighting it during the daylight hours. So many dreams... so little money... lol. But, for now, I am content with what I have currently. Life is too busy to allow me too much more these days. In a few yrs my youngest child will be off to college and I will have her room to fill with tanks until we can afford to build our dream house.
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Old 05-05-2011, 12:52 PM   #12
 
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You're too sweet. I am patient, if/when you get a productive clutch, I am here wanting to take them off your hands. I can't have too many mystery snails, lol.

As for what happened, there are so many possibilities... if the egg casing fell into the tank for any reason it would have broken down and rotted pretty quickly, becoming snail and fish food. You may not find anything left of it anymore now. It has been a long time since I have had mystery snails breeding and back then I used to remove them because I couldn't accommodate the young. Now that I want them and can accommodate them I am having a hard time finding enough that are healthy and affordable. Some of the casings I "removed" were simply scraped to drop into the tank and the fish would pick at and eat them, as did the snails, so they disappeared pretty fast.

I understand the frustration of an apartment, been there/done that yrs ago. I remember an inspection once, the landlord came in and looked around, told me "I said A fish tank was ok, not 20 of them". I had them on every flat surface in my apartment. He made me get rid of all but 2 tanks and I thought it would kill me til I was moved and able to set up more somewhere else. Hubby and I had a fish room in his parents basement when we got married, and then we bought this house about 4 yrs ago. We spent over a yr searching for a house to buy and the real estate guy thought we were nuts when we told him our main requirements were level floors, wall space for tanks, and sturdy foundation, lol. We looked at a lot of nice big houses that most people would have grabbed up in a hurry, but the floors weren't level enough to accommodate the many tanks we have, so we walked away. We ended up settling for a smaller house that met the rest of those needs, so I have my tanks, just not as many as I need and want. We have a basement not suitable for a fish room crammed full of empty tanks, and a storage unit that is mostly full of empty tanks as well. Some day I will have a heated fish barn to set them all up and more... I just have to be patient and keep working towards it.

Hubby and I also have talked about an indoor swimming pool (in ground) turned into a giant reef that we can swim in.... so that is on our list of dreams too. We figure if constructed the right way we could have a viewing window put into it on one side and build a room (our bedroom maybe) around it so we can watch it at night when things tend to be most active. If we went with skylight roof and planned it carefully, we could use sunlight for lighting it during the daylight hours. So many dreams... so little money... lol. But, for now, I am content with what I have currently. Life is too busy to allow me too much more these days. In a few yrs my youngest child will be off to college and I will have her room to fill with tanks until we can afford to build our dream house.
If only every other partner out there is as understanding as yours. Hats off to him. I wish my wife was like this I have 1 tank and even talk of anymore tanks would result in me sleeping in my car or something
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Old 05-05-2011, 06:39 PM   #13
 
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The swim-in reef tank sounds so freaking amazing!!!!
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:57 PM   #14
 
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So, as mentioned before, I had planned on doing a detailed search of the tank rim for clutches prior to today's water change...and boy was I shocked! All the clutches I had seen, which were all super tiny in comparison to this one, were indeed gone. But on the back way just an little to the left of my AquaClear 50 filter was a giant peachy/pink egg clutch!! Just the one... and it looks nice and healthy. I made sure to not drown it when filling up the tank, or to even disturb the back wall or anything near it since its the ONLY surviving clutch thus far. Now if they hatch, and how many survive, only time will tell. But I wanted to share the news. And just incase you end up being the mommy to some new mystery snails in the coming weeks/months I am attaching a pic of the clutch, and a pic of the mom. :)
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Old 05-06-2011, 03:03 PM   #15
 
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In order for any hope of them hatching 2 things need to happen. 1. the most obvious, they need to be fertilized, and 2. they need to remain moist/wet. If you can toss an air stone into the water to run beneath the egg casing so a tiny "mist" hits the water surface around it, that will keep it moist. Many people find the casings and don't realize that they dehydrate easily/quickly... Helping to keep it moist but not submerged or dripping wet will help provide the proper environment needed for development and hatching.
That does look like a healthy clutch thus far but its hard to tell any up close details.
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Old 05-06-2011, 07:00 PM   #16
 
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In order for any hope of them hatching 2 things need to happen. 1. the most obvious, they need to be fertilized, and 2. they need to remain moist/wet. If you can toss an air stone into the water to run beneath the egg casing so a tiny "mist" hits the water surface around it, that will keep it moist. Many people find the casings and don't realize that they dehydrate easily/quickly... Helping to keep it moist but not submerged or dripping wet will help provide the proper environment needed for development and hatching.
That does look like a healthy clutch thus far but its hard to tell any up close details.
Perfect. My golden mystery snail (Gaby) is a smart girl I guess. She laid her clutch exactly above the airstone and hence the clutch is moist. Away from the heater, just above the air stone. I am excited to see if I'll get some baby snails. Not sure what I'll do with them though but defenitely exicted. This is the first time I am having snails and in fact, it is just been 2 weeks since I had them.

To be honest, I dont know whether they are fertile or not. She did carry "Speedy" on top for about 2 or 3 days though and so I am assuming these are fertile eggs.
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Old 05-08-2011, 12:09 AM   #17
 
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Moved the bubbler/airstone log thing to the left so its under the clutch...and after the water change the water reaches just under the clutch (the pic was prior to the WC and water level low due to evaporation as tank temp is 79...keeping up with adding water to keep level up inbetween water changes to prevent drying out as best as possible).

No progress to report, then again only 8 days into it! Still another 1-3 weeks to go.
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:58 AM   #18
 
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So, it has been 5 weeks and 3 days and no hatching of the eggs. I was kind of looking forward to the possibility! And my snail has not laid any more clutches either. The eggs still have that great orange coloring, but some of the tiny eggs have puckered and turned white. So I assume they either dried out, or weren't fertile to begin with.

Although, I have managed to breed pouch snails!!! LOL Seriously though, I had a hitch hiker from the newest wisteria plants that were added about a month ago, and I thought there was just one...and now I see 4, and all are different sizes (29g). Still only have one pouch snail in my 15g that I can see this far.

Going this evening to one of my fave LFS to pick up some MTS for free...as long as I am the one to find them that is! LOL So hopefully the MTS wont have to compete too hard with the pouches for food, as I WANT the MTS in the tank for the benefits they bring to airing the sand substrate.

Just wanted to give an update.
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Old 06-16-2011, 02:12 AM   #19
 
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So, it has been 5 weeks and 3 days and no hatching of the eggs. I was kind of looking forward to the possibility! And my snail has not laid any more clutches either. The eggs still have that great orange coloring, but some of the tiny eggs have puckered and turned white. So I assume they either dried out, or weren't fertile to begin with.

Although, I have managed to breed pouch snails!!! LOL Seriously though, I had a hitch hiker from the newest wisteria plants that were added about a month ago, and I thought there was just one...and now I see 4, and all are different sizes (29g). Still only have one pouch snail in my 15g that I can see this far.

Going this evening to one of my fave LFS to pick up some MTS for free...as long as I am the one to find them that is! LOL So hopefully the MTS wont have to compete too hard with the pouches for food, as I WANT the MTS in the tank for the benefits they bring to airing the sand substrate.

Just wanted to give an update.
I would suggest leaving the egg clutches for some more time. My snails also laid the clutch around the same time as your snail. I am just seeing some little ones in the tank and still major portion of the clutch is intact. I am assuming more snail kiddos will come from that eggs.

Leave it there for some more time to see if they will hatch or not.

I did have 1 infertile clutch but that was flaky. When i touched it, it was pretty easy to completely remove it off the surface. While the fertile one was hard and didnt move to the touch.
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Old 06-16-2011, 08:56 AM   #20
 
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I would suggest leaving the egg clutches for some more time. My snails also laid the clutch around the same time as your snail. I am just seeing some little ones in the tank and still major portion of the clutch is intact. I am assuming more snail kiddos will come from that eggs.

Leave it there for some more time to see if they will hatch or not.

I did have 1 infertile clutch but that was flaky. When i touched it, it was pretty easy to completely remove it off the surface. While the fertile one was hard and didnt move to the touch.
Thanks for the input!!
I havent moved it, my theory was to give it as much time as possible!
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