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post #11 of 27 Old 10-03-2013, 10:57 AM
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I don't know anything about leaves. And not too much about RO water, but I do know that RO water is stripped of everything, including minerals. Perhaps there's something that they are missing that is taking a toll on them. Are you dosing with a supplement to replenish those things?

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post #12 of 27 Old 10-03-2013, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
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I'm not adding anything. Suggestions?

-Kristen's tanks:

14g Tall:
Planted, eco-complete, Red Cherry Shrimp

16g Aqueon Bowfront:
Planted, eco-complete, 8 Ember tetras, 7 Green neon tetras, 6 Harlequin Rasboras

36 Aqueon Bowfront: Planted, sand, 10 Julii cories, 8 Zebra Danios
7 Cherry Barbs, Asst snails & Ghost shrimp
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post #13 of 27 Old 10-03-2013, 11:13 AM
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Aquarium Water Conditioners for RO Water: Kent R/O Right Water Conditioner

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
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post #14 of 27 Old 10-03-2013, 11:33 AM Thread Starter
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Bought it, thanks!

-Kristen's tanks:

14g Tall:
Planted, eco-complete, Red Cherry Shrimp

16g Aqueon Bowfront:
Planted, eco-complete, 8 Ember tetras, 7 Green neon tetras, 6 Harlequin Rasboras

36 Aqueon Bowfront: Planted, sand, 10 Julii cories, 8 Zebra Danios
7 Cherry Barbs, Asst snails & Ghost shrimp
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post #15 of 27 Old 10-03-2013, 11:35 AM
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hopefully that's the problem.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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post #16 of 27 Old 10-03-2013, 09:42 PM
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Hmm... It seems your shrimp might be getting a double whammy with the higher nitrates and the lack of minerals in the water. Hard minerals are even more essential to shrimp than they are to fish because it's those minerals that they use to build their exoskeletons with. I'd go with 100% remineralized RO from now on. It will cut your nitrate problem as well as make sure the shrimp get just what they need (it will also eliminate any other issues with your tap like phosphates). Since that is what most people use for crystal red shrimps and the more sensitive neocaridina breeds, some online stores will actually sell shrimp clay that contains all the minerals they need. Kent's RO should work, too. I use Seachem Equilibrium and that also seems to work.
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post #17 of 27 Old 10-03-2013, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you. The Kents will be here Saturday. Hopefully I'll still have some shrimp by then. I did throw a calcium tab in there today.

-Kristen's tanks:

14g Tall:
Planted, eco-complete, Red Cherry Shrimp

16g Aqueon Bowfront:
Planted, eco-complete, 8 Ember tetras, 7 Green neon tetras, 6 Harlequin Rasboras

36 Aqueon Bowfront: Planted, sand, 10 Julii cories, 8 Zebra Danios
7 Cherry Barbs, Asst snails & Ghost shrimp
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post #18 of 27 Old 10-04-2013, 09:41 AM Thread Starter
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I feel like such an idiot for not realizing RO water had to have something added to it. As of this post, I've had 6 more dead. It's horrible.

I went to Petco this morning, really my only option, but they didn't have any Kent's (actually the guy told me in his 6 years of working there, he'd never heard of it.) I bought some NovAqua Plus Water Conditioner, which seemed to be the closest thing available. I'm grasping at straws, I know.

One question - am I going to also have to add some kind of pH buffer too? Would it be easier for me to go back to tap water and just try to deal with the nitrates? I love my shrimp and actually enjoy them more than my fish. I'd hate to have to give up keeping them.

-Kristen's tanks:

14g Tall:
Planted, eco-complete, Red Cherry Shrimp

16g Aqueon Bowfront:
Planted, eco-complete, 8 Ember tetras, 7 Green neon tetras, 6 Harlequin Rasboras

36 Aqueon Bowfront: Planted, sand, 10 Julii cories, 8 Zebra Danios
7 Cherry Barbs, Asst snails & Ghost shrimp
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post #19 of 27 Old 10-04-2013, 02:57 PM Thread Starter
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Three more dead. I kinda freaked out and did another water change, this time with conditioned tap water. I figured screw it, the higher nitrates weren't killing them off this fast.

Haven't had a death since. I may forego the RO water altogether and just find a way to deal with the nitrates. That's starting to seem easier.

-Kristen's tanks:

14g Tall:
Planted, eco-complete, Red Cherry Shrimp

16g Aqueon Bowfront:
Planted, eco-complete, 8 Ember tetras, 7 Green neon tetras, 6 Harlequin Rasboras

36 Aqueon Bowfront: Planted, sand, 10 Julii cories, 8 Zebra Danios
7 Cherry Barbs, Asst snails & Ghost shrimp
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post #20 of 27 Old 10-04-2013, 03:32 PM
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Nitrates aren't such a big deal IMO&E. Some people make a big deal about them though...

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
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