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post #1 of 8 Old 07-02-2012, 07:15 AM Thread Starter
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Malaysian Trumpet Snails eaiting plants

I noticed holes and decimation of my aquarium plants and now see that the overpopulation of Malaysian Trumpet snails are eating holes into my plants.

I want to get rid of them so I bought 2 Clown Loaches but I rarely see them. Will they eat Malaysian Trumpet snails?


Short of picking them off, I do not know how to get rid of them. I put a piece of Cucumber in my tank and now the guppies are eating it, but I hope it will collect these snails so I can remove them.

Any suggestions?
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post #2 of 8 Old 07-02-2012, 07:53 AM
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I noticed holes and decimation of my aquarium plants and now see that the overpopulation of Malaysian Trumpet snails are eating holes into my plants.

I want to get rid of them so I bought 2 Clown Loaches but I rarely see them. Will they eat Malaysian Trumpet snails?


Short of picking them off, I do not know how to get rid of them. I put a piece of Cucumber in my tank and now the guppies are eating it, but I hope it will collect these snails so I can remove them.

Any suggestions?
I think you've made some mistakes. I do not believe MTS will eat plants. They only eat any decaying plant matter. Secondly, you need more than 2 clown loaches, as they are social and need to be in a group of at least 5 (or they will hide and be stressed). Clown loaches get very large, so you need a nice big tank. You may want to look at returning the loaches, depending what size your tank is, or get more. And yes, they will eat Malaysian Trumpet snails.

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post #3 of 8 Old 07-02-2012, 04:19 PM
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I find the pond snails do more damage to plants than trumpets. I'm not sure on this fact, but I've heard that they only eat live plants when there is a lack of suitable decaying plant matter.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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post #4 of 8 Old 07-02-2012, 04:38 PM
just do a large water change they will come out of the sand bed and either stay on top of the sand bed or climb to the top of the tank it's easier to siphon them out this was.i have trumpets in my tank with no one to feast on them and the definitely don't eat my plants.

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post #5 of 8 Old 07-03-2012, 10:31 AM
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Malaysian Trumpet Snails are universally said to not eat healthy live plants. There are always exceptions possible, of course.

Fish that may eat snails are often undesirable due to their size or temperament, and one should not acquire a fish solely to handle any problem/issue. If the fish is one you really like and can accomodate properly (tank size adequate, suitable number of fish, etc), fine. But otherwise, please don't.

Loaches are known as avid snail hunters, but all loach species must be maintained in groups because they are a highly social fish and one or two will be stressed. However, MLS are not easy to eat, since they have what is termed a "trapdoor" unlike other snails, and even loaches find them difficult. My Botia kubotai certainly eat them, but not in great numbers. My two dwarf species of loach never eat them as far as I know.

Baiting snails with cucumber or other similar veggies can work at night, when the upper fish (like guppies) sleep. Very early in the morning, before the tank light is on and at or close to daybreak, you should be able to retrieve the veggie with snails. But kitten is correct that right after a water change the MLS will be easy to capture by hand.

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post #6 of 8 Old 07-05-2012, 03:59 PM
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Usually in the morning a they will be on top gravel or even on the sides. You can also manually pick them out. Over the last few months, I've picked out easily 1000 to sell. Just takes time. MTS will control their population, but if you over feed (like I do) you'll have tons and tons.

You could also get an assassin snail
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They are a much better choice then the fish. Clown loaches get huge!!!
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post #7 of 8 Old 07-05-2012, 04:05 PM
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I was personally sad when I found a dead baby MTS in the bathtub that obviously had accidentally gotten sucked up during a water change.

Also, I have many different plant varieties and the MTS seem to be totally uninterested in eating healthy leaves. They seem to either go for algae/diatoms that may be growing on the leaves (or aquarium glass/driftwood/etc), or go after dead rotting stuff. My pygmy chain swords are shedding their emersed leaves, and the MTS are often seen on those so I assume they're eating them now that they've started decomposing.
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post #8 of 8 Old 10-24-2012, 06:55 PM
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i don't know about MTS eating plants, from my own tanks, (like others on here) that does not seem to be the case.

i agree with Byron, Loaches are a bad choice for snail population control.

unlike what Byron said, of the hundred or so loaches out there, only a handlfull care about snails.
the smallest that do care about snails at all are 4" fish (adult size), 2 of those are not considered good for community tanks, 1 is on the endangered species list, ... that leaves the zebra loach as the smallest loach that is safe for a community tank that cares about snails.

being a community fish itself, being a 4" fish, ... personaly i'd say 40-50 gallon tank min. for this fish

from loaches.com generalizing, loaches want very clean water, flowing water, plenty of places to hide, most are picky eaters, some will not eat processed foods. i do not think the zebra loach is that picky though.

Fresh water puffer fish (dwarf puffer) is a 1" fish, but is not suitable for a community tank, a species only tank is fine, and appearently they love snails, (and shrimp).

others for snail control, ... look to other snails, for MTS, all i've heard is the assassin snail, they'll kill off all your MTS and likely any other snails you have in the tank as well.

back to what's eating your plants, ... what else do you have in your tank ? is the water healthy for your plants ?

you bought clown loaches ?, why, why would you get fish that grow to 16" ????

well unless you've got a 150gallon tank for them

fish that large ?, in a smaller tank ? why ?

and malaysian Trumpet snails burrow, so any fish you get will only keep them from overpopulating, (relative term) you will not get rid of them with (in my opinion) anything less than assassin snails, ... so your trading one snail for another, the assassin snail though reproduces much slower, and they'll still get rid of your MTS snails

but back to the clown loach ?, ... why don't you do full research into what fish your getting ?

sure the clown loach is known for eating snails, ... but it grows to about 16", ... you got 2 of them ?

maybe i'm wrong, but did you really look into what your getting or listen to someone who likewise did no research, or just wanted to sell you fish ?
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