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Old 11-19-2007, 10:38 PM   #11
 
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Please, you have to get at least one apple snail! They are wayyyy to cool. If you only have one they will not reproduce and on the off chance that the one you get is prego they lay the eggs above the water line so it is as simple as removing the sac of eggs. Honestly I think my apple snail is my favorite, he so stupid and yet I can't stop watching him... He goes up the glass under the filter eating the algae and then when he gets to the top lets go, gets pushed back down by the current and goes all over again. It's awesome, trust me.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:21 PM   #12
 
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If you only have one they will not reproduce....
Apple snails don't need a "mate" to lay fertile eggs. You can get eggs with just one snail. They don't get pregnant the way a fish gets pregnant.
But, yes, they do lay the egg sacs out of water so you can remove them usually pretty easily. Unless the eggs stay wet enough out of the water, they won't hatch. Apple snails devour any live plants, too... and they do it quickly.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:08 AM   #13
 
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Apple snails don't need a "mate" to lay fertile eggs. You can get eggs with just one snail. Apple snails devour any live plants, too... and they do it quickly.
Hmmm.. Not my snail? I have a few live plants and the only plant I have ever seen it eat is dead leaves floating around the top. I'm pretty sure you need both sexes with apple snails. Well, I have the Pomacea bridgesii (Golden) They require both sexes in order to breed (According to the apple snail website.) At one point I had two snails, and I saw babies crawling around and I thought it was theirs so I looked it up. But I never saw an egg clutch, then I realized I had just added some plants so the baby snails must have hitched a ride on the the plant. I've had just one snail for a very long time now and I have never see any baby snails since then. I'm looking at the anatomy of the apple snail right now and I found a quote on the site... "The apple snail has separated sexes (dioecious) and is NOT a hermaphroditic snail."
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:04 AM   #14
 
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There are 2 types of Golden Apple snail.

Pomacea bridgesii will not eat plants and grow to about the size of a golfball max.
Pomacea canaliculata will eat plants and grow bigger than Pomacea bridgesii.

Both require one of each sex to breed.

Hope this clears things up. :)
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:32 AM   #15
 
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Holy poop, the Pomacea canaliculata is massive! Lol that is definitely not the snail I was referring to when I said apple snail (sorry should have been more specific the first time.) Yeah so if you want a snail I guess I would recommend the Pomacea bridgesii Not the other one as you have a planted tank. I don't really know about any other inverts. I have some Ammano shrimp but I see those have already been recommended to you and they are the only shrimp I am familiar with. Good luck.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:32 PM   #16
 
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There are 2 types of Golden Apple snail.

Pomacea bridgesii will not eat plants and grow to about the size of a golfball max.
This type of snail is also typically called a "mystery snail" in many places. As for eating plants, I have seen them strip stalks on plants as fast as they go into the tank. When the mystery snails would come in at the store and we'd put them into planted tanks, the majority of them would wrap themselves around the stalks and strip the leaves and eat them as they work their way up the stalk. The ones I kept in my goldfish tank also devoured plants, in particular bunched plants with thicker stems. These snails also come in a variety of colors, from burgundy, white, gold, brown, and even "blue".
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:19 AM   #17
 
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Yuck snails.

When I first got into this hobby (back in middle school).
I had two 55 gallon tanks. One populated almost entirely by guppies and one snail.

The one snail was fine. But one day my sister decided to bring a snail from her friends house and plopped it in there without asking me.

Next thing I know they took over my tank. I couldn't even get them with poison.

Snails are the reason I dropped the hobby long ago. I'll probably never get another one.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:45 PM   #18
 
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I understand your issues with snails, I have heard of others with the same kinds of issues. I raise snails in all of my tanks, with live plants. There are better ways than poisons to control population, and I'd be more than happy to share that info with anyone who requests it. The thing to take note of with the mystery and apple snails is that they don't breed like the smaller species such as ram's horn snails. Most snail "problems" are caused by species of ram's horn snails which will breed and breed and breed endlessly. The mystery and apple snails don't breed the same way. They lay their eggs out of water, and if the eggs aren't kept wet enough/moist enough (without being submerged), they won't hatch. I have suggested mystery snails to many of my customers who feared snail "population problems" and thus far all have been quite happy with the mystery snails. Please don't let one species ruin it for you with all species. You may find later that you missed out on something quite wonderful. I have known a number of people who end up liking the mystery snails as much as they do the fish because they're large enough and move fast enough to be fun to watch and they dont take over a tank unless you help them.
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