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How many olive nerites for a 90 gal?

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How many olive nerites for a 90 gal?
Old 03-25-2009, 08:56 PM   #11
 
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the research i have done about them tells me they are not plant eaters..........I have seen a few of the smaller ones i got on my one sword plant leaves and they did nothing but eat the algae off the leaves........In less than a week they have made a huge impact on the river stones in the middle of my 90.....

The egg laying will happen in freshwater from what i read, but then it states the eggs will not fully develop unless they are in a brackwater setup.......I was considering a 10 or 20 brackish setup and try to breed them, but i have never gone brackish or tried to breed snails so it would be an undertaking on my part, but the payoffs could be nice, because my shortime exposure to them has made me a big fan of them......
There are nerites that do breed in FW but the larva sometimes fail to make it to the snail stage. One example is the European nerite (Theodoxus fluviatialis). Some olive nerites can breed in FW although the larva needs phytoplanktons and microalgae in order to survive to the snail stage but this step is very difficult to accomplish.

You can culture algae yourself. Scrape algae from one tank and put it in a bucket of water with white rocks in the bucket. Add a handful of fishfood and put the bucket under sunlight. You should be able to grow algae in a few days. Keep alternating the use of algae coated rocks to continue the supply. If you cannot culture algae, stick to the rule of one nerite per 10-15g. They are effective algae eaters but they eat algae faster than the algae can grow.
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:00 PM   #12
 
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okay cool. i saw the same info. so for me not breeding is what i want. unlike the trumpet and ramshorns. Fish Pole have you relocated any yet. How many did you keep per gallon. what substitute for food have you all found that they like when algae in scarce.
I'm still wondering what my own nerites actually eat when I don't give algae for a few days due to my schedule. I've seen a few of course consuming cucumber slices and then nibbling a bit of turtle foods. They're still the same old healthy buggers and have been with me for 6 months already.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:20 PM   #13
 
well i got some yesterday. 5 to be exact. i think they are zebra nerites. small lines on the shell with a white cone at tip of the shell. i placed the biggest one on my centerpiece driftwood in which it went to town. i expect it to finish the wood in about a week at the rate its going. i tried to place the other 4 in places they had higher amounts of algae. do they not like algae on plant leaves or are they to heavy for thinner leaf plants. mine fled for the rocks, wood and substrate. my leafs need the most help. but i would love it if they consumed the algae faster than it could grow. i prefer to add food for them.
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Old 03-27-2009, 12:24 PM   #14
 
off topic but lupin i know your a shrimp keeper. do you find amano shrimp to contribute to algae removal better or worse compared to nerites. my otos i know are failing me so i am not including them.

also lupin, does making your own alage work only with fish food. what about adding pure ammonia. fish food in more costly and i have left over ammonia from my fishless cycles on my tanks.

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Old 03-27-2009, 06:25 PM   #15
 
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well i got some yesterday. 5 to be exact. i think they are zebra nerites. small lines on the shell with a white cone at tip of the shell. i placed the biggest one on my centerpiece driftwood in which it went to town. i expect it to finish the wood in about a week at the rate its going. i tried to place the other 4 in places they had higher amounts of algae. do they not like algae on plant leaves or are they to heavy for thinner leaf plants. mine fled for the rocks, wood and substrate. my leafs need the most help. but i would love it if they consumed the algae faster than it could grow. i prefer to add food for them.
Post the pics of your snails for proper ID since there are hundreds of species of nerites. They're still adjusting and will climb the plants in no time. I have nerites here that climb the plants oftentimes whenever they feel like it. Here's the pic of one trying to remain balanced on a lotus stalk.


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off topic but lupin i know your a shrimp keeper. do you find amano shrimp to contribute to algae removal better or worse compared to nerites. my otos i know are failing me so i am not including them.

also lupin, does making your own alage work only with fish food. what about adding pure ammonia. fish food in more costly and i have left over ammonia from my fishless cycles on my tanks.
Nerites are better than anything else. You can use pure ammonia. The point of using the fishfood was to add ammonia source.
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