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Old 06-24-2011, 10:10 PM   #1
 
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ADF feeding?

So I have an ADF in a 5g with a beta and both are doing great. Leave eachother alone, are active, and act normal for their species. My only problem is feeding the ADF. I give it frozen bloodworms (obviously not frozen when fed) using a feeding wand to get them right to the frog because I've read they have trouble finding food. I've just never seen the frog actually eat. The food will float down right in front of him, I watch a little while then eventually walk away and he's still not eaten. Should I just assume he's eating or should I make sure that he's getting the food. Except for a worm or two that floats in the water the beta doesn't steal or get aggressive towards the frogs food especially when it's on the gravel because I don't think the beta knows it's there. So any info would be a huge help.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:38 PM   #2
 
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So I have an ADF in a 5g with a beta and both are doing great. Leave eachother alone, are active, and act normal for their species. My only problem is feeding the ADF. I give it frozen bloodworms (obviously not frozen when fed) using a feeding wand to get them right to the frog because I've read they have trouble finding food. I've just never seen the frog actually eat. The food will float down right in front of him, I watch a little while then eventually walk away and he's still not eaten. Should I just assume he's eating or should I make sure that he's getting the food. Except for a worm or two that floats in the water the beta doesn't steal or get aggressive towards the frogs food especially when it's on the gravel because I don't think the beta knows it's there. So any info would be a huge help.
I had ADFs for many years, this is actually my first time with aquariums set up without an ADF, as I gave my last 2 to my best friend as they didnt like the company my active loaches provided.

As far as feeding goes, ADFs are rather skilled at finding food, more so than others believe. They hunt by smell, as they have poor eye sight. ADFs enjoy frozen and freeze-dried foods, but the biggest issue over my years of dealing with them, is that freeze-dried floats, and frozen sinks too fast. ADFs appreciate a more sinking at a slow steady pace food... such as a hearty flake or sinking granual. Also, ADFs require a high calcium diet, and a good staple food for them would be something like TetraMin's ReptoMin (which are specifically for ADFs and other small amphibians that have the high calcium levels that they need, plus the ReptoMin sink.)

Also, ADFs dont always eat every day. They tend to eat every other day. Also, if the temp is cooler in the tank, they are going to eat less often because their metabolism is slowed down. And in warmer temps tend to eat more often as their metabolism is faster, also making them much more active.

My biggest question is, on your 5 gallon tank, are you using a filter and heater? Both are needed for ADFs. And as I am sure you are already aware, ADFs breath air like your betta does, and a bubbler is always welcomed as well, though not necessary. ADFs also appreciate a cave to hide in and plants to hide under, as they are sensitive to light. And substrate choices can be difficult with ADFs, as gravel too small can become choking hazards for ADFs, and gravel too large and ridged can cut their scaleless skin. Sand is generally the best option for them, but not sand that is made for plants as if the frog accidentally swallows sand while eating it can be harmful as well. Although, ADFs prove to be more hardy than described though.

I hope I have helped, and if you have any questions regarding the ADFs, please let me know.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:40 PM   #3
 
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Thanks Amanda that was a lot of good advice I was looking for. I picked up some of the repotmin you mentioned so I will try that out tomorrow. Also my tank is filtered and heated. The filter has a baffle on it so the current isn't really strong and that heater is set to around 80 which I know is top for a ADF but around the lower end for a beta so a happy medium for the two. I just replanted the tank and will have some pictures up soon so if you want to take a look and see if you see any problems that'd be great. Like I said I believe he's pretty happy because he's active and I find him chilling on a plant with his nose out of the water every now and then haha.
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Old 06-25-2011, 09:04 PM   #4
 
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There's the picture's incase you didn't see them now you don't have to go searching.
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Old 06-25-2011, 11:18 PM   #5
 
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Thanks Amanda that was a lot of good advice I was looking for. I picked up some of the repotmin you mentioned so I will try that out tomorrow. Also my tank is filtered and heated. The filter has a baffle on it so the current isn't really strong and that heater is set to around 80 which I know is top for a ADF but around the lower end for a beta so a happy medium for the two. I just replanted the tank and will have some pictures up soon so if you want to take a look and see if you see any problems that'd be great. Like I said I believe he's pretty happy because he's active and I find him chilling on a plant with his nose out of the water every now and then haha.
Your tank looks awesome!!!
The ONLY thing I could even think to suggest to you for it would be some sort of small cave like structure for the ADF, as they prefer to sleep in things like that and also use them to get out of the light when they feel like so.
Yeah, I usually kept my ADFs in the high 70s to 80F. Bettas are great tankmates for them, if the betta isnt overly aggressive.
Good Luck!! Keep us posted!!!
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:30 PM   #6
 
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Cool glad you like it! I will try and find something to make a cave out of but it'll have to be pretty tiny since there's not much room left haha. I think there's a very little terracotta pot sitting around somewhere I could tip on the side.

*edit* Found it I will add it in tomorrow when I do a WC.

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Old 06-27-2011, 10:39 AM   #7
 
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Cool glad you like it! I will try and find something to make a cave out of but it'll have to be pretty tiny since there's not much room left haha. I think there's a very little terracotta pot sitting around somewhere I could tip on the side.

*edit* Found it I will add it in tomorrow when I do a WC.
Awesome! Yeah, my suggestion was going to be one of those little pots! YAY!!!
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