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post #1 of 50 Old 09-20-2013, 10:00 PM Thread Starter
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hey guys and gals,just a little bit of info on myself and my fish keeping experience.

since i moved outtta my folks place about 10 yrs ago..in every house i've lived in i've always had a tank (whether it be a basic 'gold fish in a bowl or a more elaborate set-up).i've never tried a marine set-up (not until i'm in my own house will i try that) but heaps of tropical set-ups which usually get left behind because the housemates love them so much (it also gives me about an extra week of rent-free living!!) and have just set-up yet another tropical tank (just letting it cycle through at the moment,with daily water checks as alkalinity is slightly higher than i'm usually used to!!)...this one may be a little bit more of a challenge as it doesn't get a great deal of light (approx 4-5 hours a day) and i really don't want to use a light hood... here's the stats
2ft x 1ft, partly submersed internal filter (activated carbon as media),heated,gravel substrate (black/blue combo),plastic plants and a few ornaments.
not sure what to run in here, in the past i've had guppies,tetras,angelfish,catfish,bettas,goldfish.g otta be a fairly forgiving as i have little one that i want to give a little bit of responsibility to.
would love to give the angelfish another shot but my filter stream is way to strong (even on low setting)or black neon tetras...but i think the alkalinity is too high....any suggestion folks???
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post #2 of 50 Old 09-20-2013, 10:09 PM
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Welcome! :)
Your tank sounds wonderful, however, don't be afraid to use live plants as you may know, the fish love em!
First thing first, you need an accurate measurement of your pH so we can find suitable fishies, then we have an idea!

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post #3 of 50 Old 09-20-2013, 10:22 PM Thread Starter
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ph is sitting at about 7.6-7.7 (it's really high....to me anyway!!)..going to get a nitrate kit in the next couple of days (but our waters usually pretty good)
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post #4 of 50 Old 09-21-2013, 01:29 AM
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Here is a list of fish that i think would suit your setup...
- Guppies
- Platies
- blind cave fish
- Three Spot Gourami (Maybe)
- Gold or Opaline Gourami (Maybe)
- Betta
- Snails
- Shrimp
That is all I can think of, any way, isn't there additives that helps raise or lower your pH???

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post #5 of 50 Old 09-21-2013, 02:33 AM
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Hi!!!!!
In my experience, it's better to work with your water than attempt to change it.
That said, you may want to invest in an RO unit and mix your own water somewhere down the road.

Most of the soft water aquarium fish that have been circulating and bred in the hobby for a while, have adapted to a wide variety of water parameters (Bettas were originally from pretty soft water)

Don't forget the shrimps! a couple of amano shrimps in a planted tank is one of my favorites~


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post #6 of 50 Old 09-21-2013, 04:07 AM Thread Starter
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i can't think of anything that would lower it, i've put ph down in the tank but i think i gotta let the system sort itself out for at least a week (usually i race into it,but this time i want to do it sorta right)..i was thinking about a few snails to start with as they are coming from a friends (cheap!!)...if they die then i know i got real dramas...never tried gouramis...maybe thats the next speicies i should try..back to the snails...what on earth do i feed them??never tried shrimp either......hhhhhmmmmmmm...or even a betta to start with...i know they're fairly hardy and can be very pretty if kept in good conditions......i think snooping around my local pet stores might be in order over the next couple of days!!!
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post #7 of 50 Old 09-21-2013, 05:57 AM
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Ohh, just realised you also come from Victoria! (Wow, I am slow!)
In aus, I never seen amano shrimp in aus aokashi but you can get:
- Cherries (any ph for them)
- Crystal Red/Black (soft pH)
- Australian Glass Shrimp
- Riffle Shrimp
So your best bet for shrimp is Cherries, however, I am pretty sure Aus Glass Shrimp and Riffle shrimp also stand high pH!
Snails, it is impossible to kill them! So, like you said, if you kill them it either:
a) Wow, you can kill a snail
b) Wow, how did you do it?
c) *blink* *blink*
d) you used a clown loach did you?

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post #8 of 50 Old 09-21-2013, 08:57 AM Thread Starter
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i will check my ph 2moro and hope it has dropped (even it's a little bit..it's a start)..will try to get a nitrate test kit 2moro...but i'm thinking snails might be the go to start with...now..most of the snails i've seen are very plain coloured...like i said earlier i have a dark substrate and would kinda like to have snails that kinda blend in with it (black/blue combo)..but yet going through some of the other forums i keep on seeing this 'mystery snail' (i'm assuming that the mystery is what colour it turns out to be)..but then i also see it being called an apple snail..are these the same???
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post #9 of 50 Old 09-21-2013, 10:04 AM
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just popping in to say hello and welcome.

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #10 of 50 Old 09-21-2013, 03:30 PM
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Yes, Mystery and Apple Snails are the same type Good thing about apples is that there is a dark coloured variety, so it will blend into your sub!
Another one to look at is the Malaysian Trumpet Snails (MTS), I have a few in my hermit crab tank, which houses a 1.5G snail tank! They really good at mixing the sub (which is good, as there will be no stale pockets)....

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