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post #31 of 57 Old 03-13-2012, 04:01 PM
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If you have some time, read this thread. It is very informative and I am learning a lot.

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Ammonia is a by-product of all aerobic metabolisms—fish, snails, invertebrates, fungi and bacteria; it naturally occurs from continuous biological processes and living organisms in any aquarium, and even at very low levels this ammonia is very highly toxic to all life. At levels between 0.5 and 1 ppm there can be long-term or permanent gill damage. Ammonia is never healthy at levels that can be detected by our standard test kits, and in most cases will have negative effects on the fish. [1]

The fastest uptake of ammonia in an aquarium occurs with live plants; ammonia can be both assimilated (as a nutrient in the ionized form ammonium) and taken up (as a toxin, NH3) by plants. But ammonia is also taken up (though more slowly) by certain nitrifying bacteria, and this produces another form of nitrogen—nitrite, which is also highly toxic to all life at very low levels. Fish readily absorb nitrIte from the water and it combines with the hemoglobin in their blood, forming methaemoglobin. As a consequence, the blood cannot transport oxygen as easily and this can become fatal. At 0.25 ppm nitrite begins to affect fish after a short period; at 0.5 ppm it becomes dangerous; and at 1.0 ppm it is often fatal.
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post #32 of 57 Old 03-14-2012, 04:22 PM Thread Starter
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help

hi again,im really sorry about this,i posted yesturday about my fish flipping themselves against the plants and rocks,i wake up this morning to find my clown loaches coverd in white spots,i did add auarium salt day before yesturday,cause i was told that it could help out,i bought some meds today,took out the carb.
what i wondering is am i able to do water changes,and do i have to add more meds,;-(
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What Medicine did you add?
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hi again,im really sorry about this,i posted yesturday about my fish flipping themselves against the plants and rocks,i wake up this morning to find my clown loaches coverd in white spots,i did add auarium salt day before yesturday,cause i was told that it could help out,i bought some meds today,took out the carb.
what i wondering is am i able to do water changes,and do i have to add more meds,;-(
White spots are usually Ich. You want to raize the temperature to about 85 degrees Fahrenheit. It will speed up the lifecycle of the ich virus.

Are your fish flashing against sharp or hard objects?

The directions on the medication specify usually to not do a water change for 48 hours and not to even use another dose for another 48 hours (on the one I have).

I didn't follow directions and changed 50% of my water and then did a half dose with the temp up. All my fish survived and are swimming happy now. More experienced members had instructed me to raise the temp and turn the lights off to reduce as much stress as possible.

Changing the water will cause stress so I would only do that if your ammonia and nitrite aren't at 0ppm. Anything that causes stress should be avoided right now, so only do a water change if REALLY necessary (which for me when I did one it was).

I wouldn't add more than a half dose after you do the water change (if you dosed it today or yesterday).
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hi, i added the king british white spot control
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post #36 of 57 Old 03-14-2012, 04:33 PM Thread Starter
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i only dozed it today,but the nitries are very high
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Well what does that treat for?
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post #38 of 57 Old 03-14-2012, 04:35 PM Thread Starter
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and i now know why my water in the tank is so bad,cause i been doing water changes and,getting right down into the gravel and stiring it all up.
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i only dozed it today,but the nitries are very high
I would do a 60-70% water change is your NITRITE is high. This is HIGHLY poisonous to fish and is most certainly the cause of the Ick.

Do the water change, raise the temp and use a half dose of the medication. That's my recommendation.

Do you have the actually ppm reading for your nitrite and ammonia?

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You don't ever want to stir the gravel. You don't even want to touch it. Just change the water. When dumping water back into the tank if you don't have a rock to drop it on (i slowly pour it onto a piece of driftwood so it doesn't cause any stirring of the plants or gravel) use a clean hand. Cup your hand and pour the water into your hand so it does not disturb the gravel. The bacteria hide in here and it is very important never to touch the gravel and/or filter.

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it treats white spot, ich , coastia and trichodina
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