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Old 06-24-2011, 10:42 PM   #31
 
On algae and lights..

Ok, understand on blanket even at doing it by degrees, but will have to cover the one corner as the AM sun even with mini blinds gets on it for about 60-70 mins.. Only have sun in North windows for about 4-6 wks this time of year and shorter amount each day since we hit 6/21.

My Java Moss did not come in this Wednesday. If you can read back a couple of posts, disaster with floating wisteria. One of my Ottos got his tail all tangled in it and he died. The params are really good including Phosphate. Everything 0 but NitrAte is 5. Water change is at the same params! Have a master API kit. But read that heavy metals can also feed alage? I use inoized & ultraviolet treated spring water mixed with some distilled. Before the distilled, params were not the same unttil I added just the spring. Our well water is awful & we have water softer & iron filter.
I only have a 17 watt Flroecenet light. Wouldn't it be better to get a decent light, some really good plants along with the Java Moss? I would like a planted aquarium but know my ligth it not good. I did NOT like the Hornwort or Wisteria! (Wish my puter had not gone done before Cara gave me some and I caught your post! What a royal mess! Her type of fish don't pick at it. She has better lighting.

When I changed the 6 gallons, no algae on the glass, & very very little on the plastic plants. Not like back in May. It seems mostly suspended alge.

Today I did rinse the sponge in left over tank water from yesterday. Just squeezed and swished a few times. Only 2nd time since I started in April that I did the sponge.

What kind of light bulb and plants for a guppy tank please!? Java Moss I did order so will use that tied to a properly prepared piece of dift wood or would a lava rock be better? I am going to town tomorrow so can get a better bulb for the hood light. Plants i must order. The other LFS...yuck!

Tryiing Gram here! This end of the North side of house is shaded pretty good with many trees so light from window is not real bright, only in AM. Most of the time we use a lamp.

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Old 06-25-2011, 10:00 AM   #32
 
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If the fixture is f;fluorescent tube, measure the tube end to end not including the prongs and that is the size. Look for a T8 ("T" refers to the diameter in eighths of an inch, there are T12 which are thicker and now they are moving to T8 that are thinner and more energy efficient) in a "daylight" or similar, with a Kelvin around 6500K. Phillips and Sylvania make these, I have used both, they are fine. Can get these in hardware or home improvement type stores for a few dollars. If you are OK with the considerably extra cost, a fish store will have tubes made by Hagen (their "-Glo" series, the Life-Glo 2 is best) or ZooMed (their Ultra Sun is best) in T8.

If it is incandescent screw-in bulbs, go to the hardware or home improvement store and look for "daylight" made by GE. If you have one bulb in the fixture, a 20w, if two then two 10w will work. I think Phillips and Sylvania also make these, again you want "daylight" or something similar with a Kelvin around 6500K.

Java Moss will take to wood or rock; a nice look when the moss grows over these. Java Fern would grow easily, it also attaches to wood or rock. Brazilian Pennywort is my favourite stem plant, it like moderate light and grows either rooted in the substrate or can be left floating, it is excellent floating. As is a true floating plant, Water Sprite if you can find it. Pygmy chain swords will grow easily. All these are in our profiles, click the names to see the info and photos.
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:57 PM   #33
 
Will do on the light....

Thanks! Will get the mention bulb (long one) today with Kelvin at Lowes. I checked at Pet Supplies Plus a few times and talked to the the head of the aquarium department Sat. and he has had FW aquariums for over 20 years! The store tanks are most excellent conditon as are the fis h and plants. All that work the aqua. dept. have been aquariusts for over 10 years. The other LFS is dirty and lied to me about saying my tank was cycled when it was not!

For plants they don't have a lot, and ordering on line is not an option as the shipping is way out of range! Two plants, the Sprite & Pennyworth was almost $19 and the plants were only $5.18!! At Pet Plus they have Red Flame Sword potted (echindorus) for Mod-strong light, and Lutea (cryptocoryme) for low to moderate light. They do have Braz. Pennywort so am picking up today. They have another plant when I checked Sat. forget name, it is bright green tiny leafed plant potted but they think and I do to, the guppies will really tear it up! My Java Moss should come next week and the dept. head is giving me a piece of his African drift wood he has in his fancy guppy tank for the Java Moss. He showed me a pic of his tanks. They look so beautiful like yours! ( They gave me his number which he does not mind, I called him and so was there Sat. when I got there.) Do you think the Red Flame Sword & Lutea is ok? He is not there today and forgot to ask about fertilizer? I have to leave in about 10 minutes but will check my e-mail from town.

And one of my guppies so far has had 9 fry this AM. Her last she dropped at 11:05am. No more since but she still looks black at her gravid spot. I have another one due and well sort of think it may be today or tomorrow the way she acts and the other guppies are at her gravid spot. I hope this Momma gets done soon so I can put the other one in the breeder tank and take her out!

I will be back in town tomorrow for lab work so can pick up the other plants if you think it is ok.

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Old 06-27-2011, 01:17 PM   #34
 
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The red sword should be OK. Pennywort definitely. Crypts are fussy plants, you might want to wait a bit before venturing into them.
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:58 PM   #35
 
I got the Pennywort, I like the look! And the Red Sword looks nice to. I sure hope my Java Moss comes in next week. Sometimes on plants Pet Supplies said, they order but only get some things. Not sure where I can find some. I am very leary of Pet Smart about 30 miles from me. Not good report. What do you use in Vancouver for LFS? Oh and the only light I could get was a 20watt Hagen Glo. No Glo 2 or the other. Lowes had none of the cheaper alternative. WOW! That bulb was $18 plus tax!

I am not going to feed the fish other than the babies, for about 5 days to see if this will help it will the algae bloom...do think. I need to try for sleep.

Good night and words cannot exprress your help and expertise! :) gupgram
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:45 AM   #36
 
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I got the Pennywort, I like the look! And the Red Sword looks nice to. I sure hope my Java Moss comes in next week. Sometimes on plants Pet Supplies said, they order but only get some things. Not sure where I can find some. I am very leary of Pet Smart about 30 miles from me. Not good report. What do you use in Vancouver for LFS? Oh and the only light I could get was a 20watt Hagen Glo. No Glo 2 or the other. Lowes had none of the cheaper alternative. WOW! That bulb was $18 plus tax!

I am not going to feed the fish other than the babies, for about 5 days to see if this will help it will the algae bloom...do think. I need to try for sleep.

Good night and words cannot exprress your help and expertise! :) gupgram
I am lucky to have a few very good and reliable sources for fish and plants. Canadian Aquatics, Aquariums West, April's Aquarium, Island Pets Unlimited are my main sources, sometimes Petland.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:37 PM   #37
 
Wow that is really nice to have so many reliable places. I needed a colonized sponge for my fry tank. Pet Plus does not have them, so tried the Pet Connection! UGH!!! The sponge was totally dark brown. She said, the darker the better. OOOKAY! So got it. Oh my gosh! I rinsed it when I got home and the 2 quarts of water turned muddy brown! No alternative as I needed the sponge. Put in fry tank! Goodness the particulates from that sponge have made a mess on the bottom of the tank. I have with a turkey baster siphone off a lot of stuff from the bottom. You can't move that sponge but it 'sheds' so much. The fry are so far doing good, but think tomorrow, I think I will do a 20% water change? My plants are doing very well but the water is still very green. I am shortening the time the lights are on. Other than room lights, it gets I guess what you call 'ambient' light from windows? Almost no more sun in the AM on it, (I always cover the end of the tank till all sun gone). Params are still 0! even the phosphate. Don't the plants need some nitrate? Should I fertilize the plants? Thursdady will be one week since I did a 6 gal. water change, so should I do it again Thursday so plants get more light? Those are the 3 questions.

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Old 06-29-2011, 10:27 AM   #38
 
Oh my gosh!!

You would not believe what I found this morning. Rog has worked 4pm-1am. I never come in the family room until about 8-8:30am so assumed the sun was only hitting that one corner which I covered each night with a light pink lap robe since mini blinds are not enough on these double hung windows. Here since Rog is on days, I came in at 6am. The WHOLE front was bathed in sunlight!!! I am so embarressed! NO wonder there is algae no matter what I did! Params this morn are very good including KH 7 degrees, GH 8 degrees. On everything including phosphate but water is so green and has a little odor like a tiny bit swampy. How much do I change out? I have 6 gals. ready and the params are the same all but PH is 7.4 instead of 8.0, KH is 5 instead of 7 and GH 5 instead of 8. I can harden the water I think with a little API salt as I did in the very beginning and once a month ago with 1/2 dose of salt. Hesitate because of the plants now, ottos and corries.

Byron, I feel like a dunce!
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Old 06-29-2011, 01:29 PM   #39
 
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What is this API salt?
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Old 06-29-2011, 01:42 PM   #40
 
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Don't use aquarium salt in freshwater aquariums unless you're treating a disease. It's toxic to freshwater fish.

If you have ottos and cories, then 7.4 is a little high... raising it is a bad idea. 7.4 is fine for livebearers...

Crypt Lutea and red flame sword should be fine in medium-medium low light.
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