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Old 06-12-2011, 11:25 AM   #11
 
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And Bryon, in 2006 spent 2 months for a study at Richmond Hyperbarics Center! Lived in an apartment in Burnaby! We could see the Lion Mountain & can't remember the name, know they used the slope at last Olympics, see the lights every night! Those two were like our compass point many times! Was there from late 5/06-8/06. So very beautiful up there but holy cow the traffic and finding my way around was a challenge the first weeks! Loved the needle, and areas in Vancouver. My freind who also went for treatment had freinds in CoQuitlam (sp). The doc from Richmond, my friend & I became good friends with him. He took us around and can't remember the coves, but one of the hyperbaric techs was also a Kayak instructor and has top certification in rescue for ALL types of Kayaking we went to where he taugh day of opening. Such beautiful cove! Miss all the kind wonderful folks back there! Got to do hyperbarics with a movie star there that was in Elf! What do you have for aquarium(s) and fish? How long? gupgram
It is beautiful here, I must say. I have 7 tanks at present, you can see the photos under "Aquariums" below my name on the left. I've been active in the hobby about 20 years. B.
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Old 06-12-2011, 02:11 PM   #12
 
Bryon, your tanks are breathless! I so wish! I know I must be patient! Lost another fry today...well I euthanized it in ice water. I hope the last one will be ok. It is a male fancy and he has always been strong. To bad the rest had escaped from a dumb breeder tank. I got 3 of them before they got eaten. In effort to stop algae, read where you can put blanket over tank. I did but still fed babies 4-6 times but at one week, no light the one's spine got bent, then it just got weak even though it ate. I bent in a V. So last week euthanized it. Read where fry needs the light and won't eat in dark. Only had blanket over tank 3 days last week.

Today, I put last fry in this breeder tank where a mother fish is on side in a bigger tank, then when she drops her babies, they are gently funnled into this little side tank that has a gentle bubbling. This Mom I am hoping will drop her fry. Her belly is full & squarish and gravid is black, think I see an eye. Am worried about it cause I still have a light algae bloom, param. are PH. 8.2, Am. .25, Nitirite .05, Nitrate 10. How long can this mini cycle last?? gupram
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Old 06-12-2011, 03:40 PM   #13
 
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I would wait it out. Partial water changes, minimal feeding. Don't fret about the fry, you will have tons in time.

Thanks for the compliments. Good luck to you.
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Old 06-12-2011, 10:53 PM   #14
 
Oh! On partial water changes. How much for a 20 gal. I still wonder about my sponge filter for up to 25 gallons if I should get a different filter? I mean I plan on some more corries and maybe alge eaters, then some fry's but will cull them. What do you think? And thank you so mcuh~gupgram
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:55 AM   #15
 
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Oh! On partial water changes. How much for a 20 gal. I still wonder about my sponge filter for up to 25 gallons if I should get a different filter? I mean I plan on some more corries and maybe alge eaters, then some fry's but will cull them. What do you think? And thank you so mcuh~gupgram
A third of the water can be changed, using a good conditioner. One that detoxifies ammonia and nitrite would be best. Prime does this, and Ultimate too. There maybe another, can't remember the name though.

A sponge filter will be sufficient, with a weekly 1/3 water change when everything is normal.
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Old 06-14-2011, 01:14 AM   #16
 
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I so appreciate you helping me and please excude my questions, like I said feel so confused. I use new Tetra AuquaSafe Plus for water conditioning.

LfS does not have the Prime or the other you mentioned.

I am still confused on this alage bloom considered a cycle as the LFS aquariust (he has had aquariums 20 years or but he does manage Pet Supplies Plus, he said my water in a mini cycle Numbers should start to gradually lower and balance out.

June 7th, param. were PH 8.4, Amon 50; nitrites 2.5, nitrate 50 ,PH 8.2. Was told to get spring water 8 gallons and change out did.

8th, PH 8.2, nitirte .05, nitrate 20; am. .25

12th PH 8.4 , nitirte same, nitrate 20. am. .25 (called an was told to add more new Nurtrfin so I did).

Today, PH 8.2, nitirite not quite .05, nitrates at about 15 not 20 for sure. Am. not quite .25. So it seems the tank is cycling with the numbers slowly dropping like he said but not much of a change. Changing water makes more sense to me.

I can't find the kind of sponge you have. This one came from another LFS and it was already seeded but his store is well yuck! I most of his tanks are clear but not that great. A lot of white calcdium build up on all of his, over crowding and haven't been back since I got my fish, or just to look for Prinme today.

So, wonder if I got an aqua clear filter or Fluval (sp) filter leave present sponge in until they are seeded or cut some off it and put it in the new fliters to seed them quicker and maybe I would only have to change the water once or twice a month once better as I have to buy water? And they would be quieter than this bubbling as my duahter in laws is very quite. Oh and ideally I would like to change to sand substrate really bad and since the tank is water is messed up any way would this be a good time to? I only have 6 pounds of gravel, barely covers & guess I was supposed to have a whole lot more like 20 punds or something. Again really want the sand. Couldn't I move the fish in the water I have now and placing them in bowl while I do all this, maybe using a wet vac which has the suction power to suck out the gravel or just scoop it out?

I sure wish I had found this site before I started and you!! Bryon again, thank you so very very much!

God Bless, gupram
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Old 06-14-2011, 01:19 AM   #17
 
Oh boy so late and my spelling looks it!
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Old 06-14-2011, 09:52 AM   #18
 
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The sponge will be fine. Just give it time and keep up the W/Cs.

If you want a secret that I do, then add a teaspoon of sugar every day until ammonia is 0. It stimulates biological activity.
Just make sure it doesn't lower O2 levels too much. The fish will let you know if so by swimming at the surface.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:38 AM   #19
 
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I so appreciate you helping me and please excude my questions, like I said feel so confused. I use new Tetra AuquaSafe Plus for water conditioning.

LfS does not have the Prime or the other you mentioned.

I am still confused on this alage bloom considered a cycle as the LFS aquariust (he has had aquariums 20 years or but he does manage Pet Supplies Plus, he said my water in a mini cycle Numbers should start to gradually lower and balance out.

June 7th, param. were PH 8.4, Amon 50; nitrites 2.5, nitrate 50 ,PH 8.2. Was told to get spring water 8 gallons and change out did.

8th, PH 8.2, nitirte .05, nitrate 20; am. .25

12th PH 8.4 , nitirte same, nitrate 20. am. .25 (called an was told to add more new Nurtrfin so I did).

Today, PH 8.2, nitirite not quite .05, nitrates at about 15 not 20 for sure. Am. not quite .25. So it seems the tank is cycling with the numbers slowly dropping like he said but not much of a change. Changing water makes more sense to me.

I can't find the kind of sponge you have. This one came from another LFS and it was already seeded but his store is well yuck! I most of his tanks are clear but not that great. A lot of white calcdium build up on all of his, over crowding and haven't been back since I got my fish, or just to look for Prinme today.

So, wonder if I got an aqua clear filter or Fluval (sp) filter leave present sponge in until they are seeded or cut some off it and put it in the new fliters to seed them quicker and maybe I would only have to change the water once or twice a month once better as I have to buy water? And they would be quieter than this bubbling as my duahter in laws is very quite. Oh and ideally I would like to change to sand substrate really bad and since the tank is water is messed up any way would this be a good time to? I only have 6 pounds of gravel, barely covers & guess I was supposed to have a whole lot more like 20 punds or something. Again really want the sand. Couldn't I move the fish in the water I have now and placing them in bowl while I do all this, maybe using a wet vac which has the suction power to suck out the gravel or just scoop it out?

I sure wish I had found this site before I started and you!! Bryon again, thank you so very very much!

God Bless, gupram
Let's take this one issue at a time.

In a 20g with the fish mentioned in the initial post of this thread, a sponge filter will be adequate.

The cycling seems to be on track from the numbers posted. Don't rush it, it takes time.

Changing substrate is a bit involved but it can be done. I would wait though until things are settled.
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Old 06-15-2011, 12:54 AM   #20
 
I think you are so right...

Today the param, the PH is still 8.2. Amon. is just maybe .25 but getting closer to 0, Nitrites are now 0 (was .05 yesterday, Nitrates dropped to 10 instead of 15. The cloudy green has not worsened at least. The bubbler for the sponge is annoying. I rest a lot in my recliner here. That is why I was wondering about a different filter system for quietness. Thank you! gupgram
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