Will these fish get along? - Tropical Fish Keeping - Aquarium fish care and resources
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 10 Old 06-09-2012, 02:36 PM Thread Starter
New Member
 
Will these fish get along?

I have a 50 gallon tank and I would like:

1 x Angelfish
4 x Albino Cory
8 x Rummynose Tetra
8 x Cardinal Tetra
2 x Sailfin Molly
4 x Platy

2 x Swordtail

I have one angel, one sailfin, and 6 rummynose tetras now.
Maiachan is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 Old 06-09-2012, 02:42 PM
Member
 
Olympia's Avatar
 
What are your pH and hardness levels? Tetra and platy/molly can't be kept together as they have opposite needs for these parameters..
I'm not sure about the angel fish.. This is a problem. You can't keep a lone one, but adding one now may cause aggression..
Posted via Mobile Device
Olympia is offline  
post #3 of 10 Old 06-09-2012, 02:48 PM
Member
 
jaysee's Avatar
 
I wouldn't say they "can't" be kept together unless it was at an extreme. There are very few fish that can't, or haven't already been adjusted to the local water supply.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
jaysee is offline  
post #4 of 10 Old 06-09-2012, 02:48 PM Thread Starter
New Member
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
What are your pH and hardness levels? Tetra and platy/molly can't be kept together as they have opposite needs for these parameters..
I'm not sure about the angel fish.. This is a problem. You can't keep a lone one, but adding one now may cause aggression..
Posted via Mobile Device

PH is 6.5 and Hardness is 8 DH - normal for these fish according to one site.
Maiachan is offline  
post #5 of 10 Old 06-09-2012, 05:22 PM
Member
 
thekoimaiden's Avatar
 
You should check more than one site for these types of things. Our fish profiles indicate that sailfin molly (click name to see the profile) need pH above 7.0 and hardness above 12 dGH. Personally, I would either go with softwater fish (tetras) or hardwater fish (livebearers) so you can adjust the pH accordingly. Your water is just on the border for soft water, so it could go either way.

Your numbers of cardinal tetra and rummynose tetra sound pretty good. You could even bump them up to 10 each. The cories would also benefit from a doubling of their numbers. They can be pretty shy in small groups. Not sure about the angelfish. You could do a single gourami instead.

The livebearers should either be kept in groups of 3 females to each male or kept in male-only groups. Platies and swordtails shouldn't be kept together as they will hybridize. If you keep all males, this shouldn't be a problem.

---Izzy

Sitting by the koi pond

writings on fish and fishkeeping


thekoimaiden is offline  
post #6 of 10 Old 06-09-2012, 06:31 PM
Member
 
aussieJJDude's Avatar
 
I would be a bit worried as the angel might have a go at the cardinal's. I would keep an eye out for aggression.

540L/140G - 'Tidal Jungle' (Crabs) | 254L/67g - 'Backwater Pool' (Fish/Snails) | 96L/25G - ''Twisted Minds" (Fish/Snails)

I've never had any problems with 'Impulse Buying'. They're just animals that I forgot I had planned to get.
aussieJJDude is offline  
post #7 of 10 Old 06-09-2012, 11:50 PM
Member
 
jaysee's Avatar
 
I would not be messing with the pH. It is not at an extreme, and such action is not necessary IMO. Stable water parameters are better than perfect.

125 - BGK, chanchito cichlid, pictus cats, silver dollars, palmas bichir
125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
2.5 - betta
jaysee is offline  
post #8 of 10 Old 06-10-2012, 08:21 PM
Member
 
Byron's Avatar
 
Your water is fine for soft water fish. Livebearers however will not be healthy since there is insufficient mineral, so leave out the platy, molly and swordtail as has been suggested.

Angelfish are shoaling fish, they need a group; in a 50g, assuming it is 4 feet in length, you can have a group of five angels. Acquire them together to avoid problems. This is explained in our profile, click the shaded name Pterophyllum scalare.

I agree with not adding cardinals with angelfish. Any of the "torpedo" shaped smallish fish will likely be seen as food by angels as they mature, so the rummys will be similar. Sometimes if the angels are acquired very young and grow up with these fish around them, there is less chance of predation...but it is still natural to the fish, we can't alter nature. Better tankmates are the disk-shaped characins such as some of the species in the Rosy clade of Hyphessobrycon. Several are in our profiles, just avoid those that are prone to nip fins. Rosy Tetra, Roberts Tetra, Black Phantom Tetra are fine. Substrate fish are usually OK. Many of the cory species will work.

The above has assumed you get angelfish. If not, then the cardinal and rummynose are fine, in larger groups as someone suggested. As for gourami (not with angelfish) here you run into some similar/other issues. Males are territorial, so depending upon species, one male and 2-3 females can work. Tankmates must be quiet, not active swimmers (this applies to the angels too), nor prone to nip fins. Most of the commonly-seen gourami are in our profiles.

Byron.

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If youíre going to take it under your wing then youíre responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]

Last edited by Byron; 06-10-2012 at 08:24 PM.
Byron is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to Byron For This Useful Post:
aussieJJDude (06-10-2012)
post #9 of 10 Old 06-10-2012, 08:25 PM
Member
 
Olympia's Avatar
 
There is already a lone angel in this tank.. Couldn't adding more be a problem, depending on age, or am I mistaken?
I'd try rehoming the sailfin Molly if possible as well.
Posted via Mobile Device
Olympia is offline  
post #10 of 10 Old 06-10-2012, 08:38 PM
Member
 
Byron's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Olympia View Post
There is already a lone angel in this tank.. Couldn't adding more be a problem, depending on age, or am I mistaken?
I'd try rehoming the sailfin Molly if possible as well.
Posted via Mobile Device
Yes, missed that, thanks. Hard to say. If the present fish is a male, there may well be trouble as any new males would likely be driven off. Individual fish can be different, all we can say is what the "norm" is.

Byron.

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If youíre going to take it under your wing then youíre responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
Byron is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome