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post #11 of 18 Old 11-21-2013, 04:53 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, same leaves, new aquarium water out of my 75gal, now I'll give another 24 hrs to see what happens to the water. Tanks for the input guys.
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post #12 of 18 Old 11-23-2013, 02:54 AM
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Found a year-old Rooibos tea-bag yesterday evening. Tossed it into my plakat's 5g. Nicely golden water this afternoon. Bubblenest under the tea-bag, where he spent most of the day building and guarding. Not much appetite, which was worrying. Otherwise behavior was normal --- active, curious.

It lowered the pH from the usual 8.2 to an astonishing 7.4, the same as my sourcewater pH. About the same pH lowering as IAL. And I have what I consider a pretty hard well (sorry, no readings). Just a data-point for y'all.

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post #13 of 18 Old 11-23-2013, 11:18 PM Thread Starter
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The twice- soaked leaves still color the water, no leaves for me.

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post #14 of 18 Old 11-24-2013, 02:33 AM
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Not sure you can get the benefits without the tannins. I'm not a big fan of brown water, myself. I'll remove it over the next few water changes.
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post #15 of 18 Old 11-24-2013, 04:30 AM
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I sometimes use some really ugly water to condition fish. Not much for viewing but hard to deny the results.
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post #16 of 18 Old 11-24-2013, 06:40 PM
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If you have squirmy loaches, they'll still like the leaves, even tannin-free!
Just curious. . . how many(ish) leaves do you have in your 10g?
Depending on how many you put in, you might not even notice much of a color shift in the larger tank. . .
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post #17 of 18 Old 11-24-2013, 06:51 PM
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I use dried leaves from Live Oaks, and I've never once had a problem with tannins.

I'm very paranoid though, and I boil the leaves in a big ol' pot on the stove for quite a bit of time, somewhere between 20mins to an hour.

If the water in the pot gets really dark, I'll dump it, add fresh water, and boil again. I think it also helps the leaves toughen up a bit (which sounds like the opposite of what should happen, I know.)

This way they're already full of water and sink right to the bottom of the tank. You can use dechlor'd water if you want, but I use plain old tap water and haven't had an issue.

I have a solid inch thick layer of live oak leaves on the bottom of my 35 gallon for my hoarde of Kuhli Loaches. I see them pretty often, they remind me of kids in a ball pit in all honesty ;p

Hope that was helpful!

P.S. - I personally ADORE my leaf litter, as it really strikes home the natural look I like in m tank. Leaf litter substrate, crazy over grown plants, floating plants, fallen sticks...*dreamy sigh*
It's just a bonus that my kuhlis love it too!
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post #18 of 18 Old 11-24-2013, 07:07 PM Thread Starter
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thanks all

I really like the idea of a groundcover for my loach tank. I'll try boiling. Thanks for the input.
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