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post #11 of 22 Old 01-02-2011, 12:05 PM
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why not just go catch some lol? Find what species are local to your certain area.

There were my rainbow darters I use to have they came from down the road ^_^. Gave them up when I got my kayak. See 100's of these guys in certain rivers around here.


WOW! Those are really cool. Will they spawn in a tank? I have kept a few native darters and gobies but never anything as beautiful as those. I don't think there is anything that colorful in my region.

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post #12 of 22 Old 01-02-2011, 12:19 PM
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BTW... Small American sunfish - Black Banded, Pumpkinseed, Green, and Long Eared to name a few - adapt well to aquariums and are very beautiful and interesting. They have neat personalities, (much like cichlids), and will even spawn, but the cold water requirements make them a challenge to keep long term. They need a several month period of cold water every year to thrive. It takes a pretty good sized tank too. They are quite popular in Europe I am told but may even be slightly illegal to keep in captivity in their native range. I have kept a few over the warmer months but released them in the fall.

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post #13 of 22 Old 01-02-2011, 12:34 PM
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There are no Darters here in Idaho that I know of. I am in the process of setting up a Rocky Mountain River Biotope though. I think I'll get a 150-180 gallon aquarium with a good Chiller, a couple Rainbow Trout and a native Rocky Mountain Crawfish or two. Pictures will abound once I get it started!

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post #14 of 22 Old 01-04-2011, 01:09 PM Thread Starter
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Found this site, thought it would be helpful for anyone else wanting to do a native tank!
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Middle TN Exotics Club

29 Gallon Marbled Tank
15ish Marbled Cray fish
A few Ghost Shrimp


20 Gallon Snail Tank
??? Gold, Brown/Black, Ivory Mystery Snails (lots of babies and eggs too)
??? Pond Snails
1.1 P. Alleni (I think...) in 'baskets' until sold...


10 Gallon Baby Marbled Tank
LOTS of baby Marbled Crayfish


10 Gallon Planted
Unknown plants
Lots of Ghost Shrimp (some berried up :D)
3 Blue Mystery Snails
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post #15 of 22 Old 01-04-2011, 07:29 PM
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BTW... Small American sunfish - Black Banded, Pumpkinseed, Green, and Long Eared to name a few - adapt well to aquariums and are very beautiful and interesting. They have neat personalities, (much like cichlids), and will even spawn, but the cold water requirements make them a challenge to keep long term. They need a several month period of cold water every year to thrive. It takes a pretty good sized tank too. They are quite popular in Europe I am told but may even be slightly illegal to keep in captivity in their native range. I have kept a few over the warmer months but released them in the fall.
My friend keeps his fish at a constant temp all year and they do perfectly fine (he has two pumpkinseeds, a redbreast sunfish and a bluegill)
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post #16 of 22 Old 01-08-2011, 11:28 PM
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My friend keeps his fish at a constant temp all year and they do perfectly fine (he has two pumpkinseeds, a redbreast sunfish and a bluegill)
My research tells me they will live, but not breed (and therefore "thrive") without an anual period of cold temps - in the upper 50's to low 60's Fahrenheit at least. Seeing is believing though so if your friend's fish spawn I would say I stand corrected.

The ones I kept adapted extemely well and did fantastic throughout the Summer months in tropical temps, but I didn't chance keeping them at high temps for longer than that.

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post #17 of 22 Old 01-08-2011, 11:42 PM
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Found this site, thought it would be helpful for anyone else wanting to do a native tank!
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Thanks Kazzy! I had no idea that my local river had so many beautiful fish! I am going to have to go netting!

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post #18 of 22 Old 01-09-2011, 12:08 AM Thread Starter
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No problem! Yeah, I didn't realize the diversity in my area either :D

Middle TN Exotics Club

29 Gallon Marbled Tank
15ish Marbled Cray fish
A few Ghost Shrimp


20 Gallon Snail Tank
??? Gold, Brown/Black, Ivory Mystery Snails (lots of babies and eggs too)
??? Pond Snails
1.1 P. Alleni (I think...) in 'baskets' until sold...


10 Gallon Baby Marbled Tank
LOTS of baby Marbled Crayfish


10 Gallon Planted
Unknown plants
Lots of Ghost Shrimp (some berried up :D)
3 Blue Mystery Snails
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My research tells me they will live, but not breed (and therefore "thrive") without an anual period of cold temps - in the upper 50's to low 60's Fahrenheit at least. Seeing is believing though so if your friend's fish spawn I would say I stand corrected.

The ones I kept adapted extemely well and did fantastic throughout the Summer months in tropical temps, but I didn't chance keeping them at high temps for longer than that.
He had them spawn once, or at least one pumpkinseed wanted to spawn and took over the tank for a couple weeks. He did report seeing eggs but nothing materialized fry-wise. I forget what set them off, but the tank didnt get nearly that cold. Here is a native that can be found as a hitchhiker in ghost shrimp tanks at LFS's:

The Swamp Darter, not that colourful, but still an interesting little fish.
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post #20 of 22 Old 01-09-2011, 12:21 AM Thread Starter
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So going to look into the shrimp tanks a lot more closely now!

Middle TN Exotics Club

29 Gallon Marbled Tank
15ish Marbled Cray fish
A few Ghost Shrimp


20 Gallon Snail Tank
??? Gold, Brown/Black, Ivory Mystery Snails (lots of babies and eggs too)
??? Pond Snails
1.1 P. Alleni (I think...) in 'baskets' until sold...


10 Gallon Baby Marbled Tank
LOTS of baby Marbled Crayfish


10 Gallon Planted
Unknown plants
Lots of Ghost Shrimp (some berried up :D)
3 Blue Mystery Snails
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