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Treating ich and overstocked
Old 10-14-2012, 01:53 AM   #1
 
Treating ich and overstocked

Hey guys
SO i have a 19L tank with built in filter and a heater running at 25 degrees.

The guys at my local store have happily stocked me with 5 tetras, 3 guppies and a peppered cory. Ive been since informed that this is waaaay to much and its the cause of the ich. Only one guppy has ich right now and its noticeable on his back and back tail fin.

i uhm am stuck at the moment on what to do to treat this and get it going again as the cory cant handle salt and blah blah all this other stuff.

The guys on the chat basically gave up, my plan is to get rid of all fish but the guppies to keep. SO i guess what im saying is in this process of cleaning out the tank and getting it back to running shape, if some fish pass by i guess theres nothing much i can do, i will get which ever ones make it back to the pet store.

But im not giving ich fish back.

CHeers
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Old 10-14-2012, 09:18 AM   #2
 
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Hey guys
SO i have a 19L tank with built in filter and a heater running at 25 degrees.

The guys at my local store have happily stocked me with 5 tetras, 3 guppies and a peppered cory. Ive been since informed that this is waaaay to much and its the cause of the ich. Only one guppy has ich right now and its noticeable on his back and back tail fin.

i uhm am stuck at the moment on what to do to treat this and get it going again as the cory cant handle salt and blah blah all this other stuff.

The guys on the chat basically gave up, my plan is to get rid of all fish but the guppies to keep. SO i guess what im saying is in this process of cleaning out the tank and getting it back to running shape, if some fish pass by i guess theres nothing much i can do, i will get which ever ones make it back to the pet store.

But im not giving ich fish back.

CHeers

I'm assuming you did not mean 25 degrees. I would raise the temp to 80 degrees. Buy liquid "Quick Cure". It's safe for sensitive fish and will hopefully save your poor cories. Start with the half dose they recommend for tetras. After your tank is stable, than place your unwanted fish. It's not right to not do what you can for a fish after you made the choice to buy him :)

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Old 10-14-2012, 10:02 AM   #3
 
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There are many ich cures out there that don't involve salt. As Gwen said, you usually use half the normal dosage when corys are involved. It still works, just might take a little longer. I would cure the ich in any event. You are correct in that the ich was probably caused by the over stocking. It is always present, but only becomes an issue when conditions are poor. I've seen pet shops sell 2 fancy goldfish and a 2 gallon tank to unsuspecting customers; however, I don't put all the blame on them. Being in retail, I see customers wave away good advice either because they think they know better or just don't want to have their bubble burst. The best approach is going in armed with research. That being said, it would be nice to think that you could trust the so called experts to be frank when you are venturing into a new area.
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Old 10-14-2012, 01:15 PM   #4
 
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Gwen, I think he means 25C which is equivalent to 77F. Either way, raising the temp to at least 80F (27C) will help get rid of the ich as heat speeds up the life cycle and it's only vulnerable to treatment in one phase of its life cycle.

Is there any way you could get a larger tank? Or even a 40 L plasic tub? Have a larger volume of water will reduce the stress on the fish and will help them fight off the ich themselves.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:05 AM   #5
 
Hey guys
I meant to type 28C my apologies, i have no way of getting to a pet store to get treatment at this stage, its been 3 days now and none of the other fish are currently effected by the ich, only the one fish has ich on him.

Ive been studying closely to make sure none of the others have it and so far none do, it does not seem that the ich is going away on the guppy who got it first, maybe it could be something else?

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Old 10-15-2012, 03:08 AM   #6
 
SO what im saying is i think its been iradicated in the water but its just gotta get off that fish, hoping for the best here! my first tank, would be really sad if i lost the fish :(
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:42 AM   #7
 
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SO what im saying is i think its been iradicated in the water but its just gotta get off that fish, hoping for the best here! my first tank, would be really sad if i lost the fish :(
Be careful. Ich is only able to be killed when it's in the free swimming stage. You need to continue treatment at least 5-7 days after you no longer see the signs on the fish.

The ones you have on your fish now, will become free swimming, and latch on to other hosts.

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Old 10-15-2012, 08:28 PM   #8
 
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I would raise the temp even higher, around 85F/30C, for one week. Do a major water change first, half the tank, and raise the temp a bit with this, then adjust the heater for the rest. Going higher to 90F would be the cure, but the cory will find this difficult and so may the tetra, not knowing which species.

I can't guarantee the temp to 85F alone will handle this, but it might. If you can get to a fish store, a small bottle of CopperSafe would be my choice for a medication. It is gentle enough for delicate fish (corys, tetra) but in my experience effective. I would not use salt, ever; the cory and the tetra will find this very stressful and the tetra might well die from it if the salt is anywhere near strong enough to actually deal with the ich.

Ich is caused by stress, period. And preventing stress is the best way to prevent ich or to eradicate it [though this is not 100% possible]. The higher temp as someone mentioned speeds up the ich cycle, and can even kill them at 90F. Keeping the fish un-stressed is important so they can naturally fight it off.

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