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Old 05-04-2011, 11:14 PM   #21
 
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I agree, the aquascape is breathtaking! You out did yourself!

A small plant for the front that doesnt mind gravel too much is a crypt wendtii...I have 5 at the moment, and they all use to be in gravel and grew great...just like 2 wks ago did they get a sand set up.

thank you to both! i love staring at it.. i fall asleep watching them swim around :).. well im not getting any more plants as of now.. i got the 1 live plant, a corkscrew it is called. hopefully it stays alive! ive never had a live plant before.. but ive researched about it and got it at the fish store i always go to. the guy i know there said you really dont do anything with plants, they kind of just grow on there own and do their own thing, but they need light. and obviously the water parameters need to be good. but i thought that they needed plant food or something lol.. anyway, i read that you shouldnt cover the crown of the plant. i wasnt sure what that was, and then i searched it and it said it is the part where the stem meets the plant?? so i took a bit of gravel off because i had covered i think too much, and now the way bottom of the plant is kind of sticking out of the gravel. hopefully i have it planted right. here is what it looks like now.
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Old 05-05-2011, 12:05 AM   #22
 
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I dont get too deep with plant knowledge... but I will say I just bury mine as I feel looks good, make sure they get light, make sure there arent any live plant eating fish or inverts in my tank, and once a week put in fertilizer (I use API's Leaf Zone Pro Series...for the moment, I actually really like it though). With only one plant, I dont know if you NEED ferts, I dont put any ferts in my 29g as there is only one live plant in there...but I make sure to use ferts in my 15g as there is like 7 live plants (will have even more next week, probably adding 4-7 new plants).

Byron is the member I would go to with plant questions...there are a few others, but I know he is subscribed to this thread since he has posted in it ;)
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Old 05-05-2011, 01:38 AM   #23
 
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That plant doesn't look like a corkscrew vallisneria (Vallisneria americana var. biwaensis) it looks more like jungle vallisneria (Vallisneria americana gigantea). You may want to look that up online for photo id.

One thing I can tell you about the vals, including the jungle val, is that it likes to be crowded. A single plant seldom thrives on its own, but when closely planted with a lot more of its own kind, tends to grow rapidly and spread easily via runners that produce new shoots that start out at the base of the plant and travel through the gravel and eventually poke through. At the store we sold them in groups of 5 because there was a better chance they would thrive and spread in a customer's tank that way vs a single plant. I have never had any luck trying to grow a single val plant by itself, but when grouped with others of its species, it grew and spread pretty quick.

In regards to fertilizers... please remember that fish waste is a plant fertilizer. If you add too much in nutrients to a tank without enough plants to utilize them, you will end up with algae issues instead of good plant growth. If you are concerned about this plant needing more nutrients you might want to try Flourenette A tabs by Sera. You can target the specific plant this way by inserting the tab (or partial tab) into the gravel near its roots. I have seldom ever used ferts in any of my planted tanks, found no need... but the few times I have, these tabs worked very well. We also used them in the store show tanks where there weren't many fish and had amazing results there too.
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Old 05-05-2011, 07:12 AM   #24
 
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That plant doesn't look like a corkscrew vallisneria (Vallisneria americana var. biwaensis) it looks more like jungle vallisneria (Vallisneria americana gigantea). You may want to look that up online for photo id.

One thing I can tell you about the vals, including the jungle val, is that it likes to be crowded. A single plant seldom thrives on its own, but when closely planted with a lot more of its own kind, tends to grow rapidly and spread easily via runners that produce new shoots that start out at the base of the plant and travel through the gravel and eventually poke through. At the store we sold them in groups of 5 because there was a better chance they would thrive and spread in a customer's tank that way vs a single plant. I have never had any luck trying to grow a single val plant by itself, but when grouped with others of its species, it grew and spread pretty quick.

In regards to fertilizers... please remember that fish waste is a plant fertilizer. If you add too much in nutrients to a tank without enough plants to utilize them, you will end up with algae issues instead of good plant growth. If you are concerned about this plant needing more nutrients you might want to try Flourenette A tabs by Sera. You can target the specific plant this way by inserting the tab (or partial tab) into the gravel near its roots. I have seldom ever used ferts in any of my planted tanks, found no need... but the few times I have, these tabs worked very well. We also used them in the store show tanks where there weren't many fish and had amazing results there too.
thats so funny you said that b/c i was thinking the same thing that it didnt look like a corkscrew. the jungle one looks exactly like it. ok i will think about getting some more then. yea i never overfeed the fish so i know im not putting too many nutrients in the tank.. ill def look into the tabs
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:20 AM   #25
 
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I agree that is not Corkscrew Vallisneria. Both Vallisneria species mentioned are in our profiles with photos and info on care. It might also be a Sagittaria, they are remarkably similar to Vallisneria in appearance. Sagittaria platyphylla perhaps, maybe even Sagittaria subulata though the latter grows much narrower leaves for me. I can't see the leaf veining well enough in the photo.

With only that plant you may not need supplemental fertilization. Leave the substrate near the plant alone (no vacuuming) so the organics can be broken down by the bacteria to feed the plant. The growth pattern will indicate if anything is needed.

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I agree that is not Corkscrew Vallisneria. Both Vallisneria species mentioned are in our profiles with photos and info on care. It might also be a Sagittaria, they are remarkably similar to Vallisneria in appearance. Sagittaria platyphylla perhaps, maybe even Sagittaria subulata though the latter grows much narrower leaves for me. I can't see the leaf veining well enough in the photo.

With only that plant you may not need supplemental fertilization. Leave the substrate near the plant alone (no vacuuming) so the organics can be broken down by the bacteria to feed the plant. The growth pattern will indicate if anything is needed.

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can i vacuum other parts of the aqaurium, just not near the plant? I vacuum the gravel once a month, is that enough?
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Old 05-22-2011, 04:09 PM   #27
 
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Dont !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The barb will eat the platies!!!!!!!!!!!!
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