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Old 08-09-2011, 01:17 PM   #11
 
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Like 1077 said if you use the prime you do not need the Ammolock as the prime in my opinion is a better product and does the same thing as the ammolock only better. ; ) Good luck with your tank.
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Old 08-09-2011, 07:47 PM   #12
 
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Okay, last nights water test showed 1.0ppm ammonia and 0.0 ppm Nitrite.

This morning at about 8:10PM HST I again got a 1.0 Ammonia, 0.0 Nitrite.

This Afternoon at about 1:45PM HST I got a reading of 1.5ppm Ammonia and 0.25ppm Nitrite.

So it seems that this ammonia problem has cooled down and is starting to get controlled. Still that 0.0 reading for ammonia is the target. May do a water change tonight depending on what the results may be.

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You may be able to vaccum out or dilute the afore mentioned but I would place the fish in a large plastic tote with filters and heater and switch out the substrate rather than deal with possible unknown factor's .
Would also do away with ammolock and use water conditioner such as PRIME for water changes and nothing else but that's just me.
I was strongly considering redoing the tank when I first started the thread (when readings for ammonia reached 8ppm). But sadly that's not an option at the moment as I won't have time to do a full overhaul for another week. But yes, I've been using Prime and Ammolock after water changes, but since the Prime detoxes the Ammonia, I'll probably just cut off the Ammolock and go exclusively with the Stress Zyme and Prime. Things are seem to be calming down and the fish are eating and seem normal as ever. Next time I do a tank, I will surly not use diy sand, I'll just go buy some.
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Old 08-09-2011, 08:27 PM   #13
 
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I would not use the StressZyme, just Prime with water changes as needed.

StressZyme claims (from API's website):
Improves the development of the biological filter and helps clean a dirty aquarium. Contains over 300 million live bacteria per teaspoonful. Breaks down organic compounds that cause dangerous conditions such as ammonia and nitrite poisoning and low oxygen levels. Continuous use assures an active biological filter, cleaner aquarium, healthier fish and good water quality.
While this sounds fine, the "breaks down organic compounds" will cause ammonia (and thus subsequent nitrite) if it is being done naturally as this claims. The 300 live bacteria per spoon are not nitrifying bacteria but the heterotrophic bacteria that handle organics. You are attempting to establish natural bacteria in the substrate and filter to handle this, I would let this occur naturally without this product.

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Old 08-09-2011, 11:19 PM   #14
 
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Okay, last nights water test showed 1.0ppm ammonia and 0.0 ppm Nitrite.

This morning at about 8:10PM HST I again got a 1.0 Ammonia, 0.0 Nitrite.

This Afternoon at about 1:45PM HST I got a reading of 1.5ppm Ammonia and 0.25ppm Nitrite.

So it seems that this ammonia problem has cooled down and is starting to get controlled. Still that 0.0 reading for ammonia is the target. May do a water change tonight depending on what the results may be.



I was strongly considering redoing the tank when I first started the thread (when readings for ammonia reached 8ppm). But sadly that's not an option at the moment as I won't have time to do a full overhaul for another week. But yes, I've been using Prime and Ammolock after water changes, but since the Prime detoxes the Ammonia, I'll probably just cut off the Ammolock and go exclusively with the Stress Zyme and Prime. Things are seem to be calming down and the fish are eating and seem normal as ever. Next time I do a tank, I will surly not use diy sand, I'll just go buy some.
Whichever water conditioner is used ,should be used BEFORE new water is added to the aquarium rather than after.This ensures that fishes and bacteria (good kind) are not subjected to chlorine /chloramines.
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Old 08-09-2011, 11:36 PM   #15
 
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I would not use the StressZyme, just Prime with water changes as needed.

StressZyme claims (from API's website):
Improves the development of the biological filter and helps clean a dirty aquarium. Contains over 300 million live bacteria per teaspoonful. Breaks down organic compounds that cause dangerous conditions such as ammonia and nitrite poisoning and low oxygen levels. Continuous use assures an active biological filter, cleaner aquarium, healthier fish and good water quality.
While this sounds fine, the "breaks down organic compounds" will cause ammonia (and thus subsequent nitrite) if it is being done naturally as this claims. The 300 live bacteria per spoon are not nitrifying bacteria but the heterotrophic bacteria that handle organics. You are attempting to establish natural bacteria in the substrate and filter to handle this, I would let this occur naturally without this product.

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Great to know, I never thought of it that way. And all this time I've been using Stress Zyme to help cycle my tanks (It's expensive too around here, a bottle of it goes for $20.00)

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Whichever water conditioner is used ,should be used BEFORE new water is added to the aquarium rather than after.This ensures that fishes and bacteria (good kind) are not subjected to chlorine /chloramines.
Yes, normally that is a concern but in Hawaii, they don't add chlorine to our water. Funny, I just took a trip to the mainland a few weeks ago and was totally surprised at how the tap water smelt and tasted! I felt like I was drinking out of a public pool, that stuff would definitely melt a fish. I lived on bottled water during my stay, the Tap water made me kinda sick. I can't imagine how hard it would be to do water changes up there, to treat the water before adding, and if you have multiple tanks... wow. We've got it easy here. I'm just using the prime to help detox some of the ammonia and nitrites, and stabilizing the purigen after bleaching.

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Old 08-13-2011, 03:01 PM   #16
 
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Just wanted to update, as of the last 3 days, 2 tests daily, I've gotten nothing but 0.0ppm for Ammonia so YAY Nitrites are at 0.25ppm and dropping. So things are looking good!


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Old 08-16-2011, 09:08 AM   #17
 
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Sounds good!
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Old 08-17-2011, 12:00 AM   #18
 
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Probably my final update... Last three days, all tests showed 0.0 ppm for both Nitrite and Ammonia. Water is very clear and smells good! Looks like the tank got over that Cycling hump! Thanks again for all the replies and tips. If anyone is interested in diy aquarium sand, bleach it before use or you'll have this crazy Ammonia humbug on your hands!

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Old 08-23-2011, 07:18 PM   #19
 
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Great it all worked out for you. Wouldn't one have to be careful with bleach though?

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