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post #1 of 25 Old 06-03-2007, 03:17 PM Thread Starter
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Suggestions for mid and top dwellers needed.

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I've recently set up a 40 gallon tank and need something to occupy the mid and upper levels exclusively. Currently my entire stock is made of bottom dwellers. Looking to get attractive mid/top dwellers. I was considering Discus but I read they're extremely sensitive. I'm thinking maybe an angelfish or two (yes/no?).

Tanks: 40 gal FW setup, 10 gal Reef tank.

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So what sort of bottom dwellers? How many? Soft or hard water? What temp? Planted or no? Strong, little, or no current? Lots of places you can go here, but the best advice will depend a lot on the answwers to those questions.

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So what sort of bottom dwellers? How many? Soft or hard water? What temp? Planted or no? Strong, little, or no current? Lots of places you can go here, but the best advice will depend a lot on the answwers to those questions.
4 Sterba Corys, 2 Ghost Shrimp, and 1 Vampire Shrimp. I also have 1 male fantail betta that occupies all levels of the tank, but usually can be found near the top. The water is neutral, as my tap water's pH is 7. It is not planted. I would say the current is not strong, but not weak. I have two HOB filters, except one is a nano filter, so it doesn't generate that strong a current. The reason why I have two working in conjunction is because the main filter, the AquaClear50, is positioned to the left of the tank. To avoid stagnating one side, and to improve aeration and gas exchange, I added a nano filter to the far right. Why not just CENTER the AC50? Because of the way my hood is designed (stupid people imo), there's only one slot large enough, and it's to the far left. I'm not about to take cutters to my hood either. :/

Hope that helps. Thanks!

Tanks: 40 gal FW setup, 10 gal Reef tank.

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Mid: A shoal of 30-40 cardinals or neons.

Surface: Hatchetfish/penguin tetras/glass bloodfins

Too many choices available in the aquarium trade. Discus aren't exactly delicate. It is a matter of trying to give them the best environment possible. A 40 gallons is too small to keep 4 or more.

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I don't think I'd like a large shoal like that. It's a waste of perfectly good space for several larger fish or a couple of bigger ones. Plus I have a bad history with Neon tetras, thanks for the suggestion though.

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I've had my eyes on Glass Catfish ever since I first read about them. How do they sound? I'd probably get a group of 4 or 5. They're quite impressive to see shoal together. Only, they get up to 6", and a shoal of 4 or more essentially uses up a lot of my tank space. :(

So you would say Discus aren't very delicate? I really want two of them to be my centerpieces. Do they require a shoal?

edit2 - damn they need at least 4 - 6. :(

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I've had my eyes on Glass Catfish ever since I first read about them. How do they sound? I'd probably get a group of 4 or 5. They're quite impressive to see shoal together. Only, they get up to 6", and a shoal of 4 or more essentially uses up a lot of my tank space. :(
Get 6 instead of less than that. Not a bad idea at all and they'll appreciate a bit of currents.:) But never keep them with boisterous fish particularly the danios. They often do not get their fair share of food at this rate.
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So you would say Discus aren't very delicate? I really want two of them to be my centerpieces. Do they require a shoal?
Wild ones are worse than captive-bred ones and the latter isn't exactly sensitive and in fact, will adapt well to various water conditions provided you do it carefully. You are better off getting them in your breeder than your lfs but with a 40 gallons, you cannot proceed to keeping discus. Discus are often shy therefore requiring their own company. Most often, a single one will simply pine away thus it's not worth the risk trying one.

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I'm looking at Angelfish now I think. I plan on purchasing all of them while they're still very small, and the same coloring.

Maybe 3?

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I'm looking at Angelfish now I think. I plan on purchasing all of them while they're still very small, and the same coloring.

Maybe 3?
It should be okay but once two pair up, you will need another tank. They will most likely pair up around 6 months of age.

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Please elaborate on why I will need another tank eventually. If this is a sure thing then I can't get angels. :(

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Please elaborate on why I will need another tank eventually. If this is a sure thing then I can't get angels. :(
It is down to luck if you'll be able to get a breeding pair. A breeding pair can terrorize their tankmates.:) A 20 gallons tall will be sufficient as a temporary housing where a pair can lay their eggs. If you are prepared to raise a hundred fry, then go for it.:D

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