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post #41 of 49 Old 03-04-2012, 10:26 AM
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okay so oto cats are the way to go. i'll keep the cory in my 10 gallon. how many plants is an appropriate amount for a tank set up like this? i like a heavily planted environment.
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okay so oto cats are the way to go. i'll keep the cory in my 10 gallon. how many plants is an appropriate amount for a tank set up like this? i like a heavily planted environment.

A single cory is not a good idea. They are social fish, and you should have a group of at least 3 but 5 would be ideal. Yes, otos are perfect for this purpose. I can't tell you how many plants. Look at your lighting, and decide what plants are best, and either get alot at one time, or try a few and see how they do, and build as you go along. You can never have too many :) Start with planting along the back and sides, perhaps a piece or two of driftwood in the tank, off center.

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okay. i'll look into getting more cories. and i plan on using the shrimp method to cycle my new tank. would a few plants do alright while cycling my tank with this method?
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okay. i'll look into getting more cories. and i plan on using the shrimp method to cycle my new tank. would a few plants do alright while cycling my tank with this method?
Yes, as long as they have light.

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If you have live plants, forget cycling with shrimp or anything else, you will only be creating a mess for no purpose. Plants will do the job for you. Once the tank is planted, including some fast-growing plants (floating plants do well here), put your first few fish in. The plants grab the ammonia fast, and you won't even notice a "cycle," and neither will the fish.

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any specific species of fish that will be good to acclimate the tank? i'm going to my LFS today to look into plants.
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any specific species of fish that will be good to acclimate the tank? i'm going to my LFS today to look into plants.
Get something (fish) that you want in the tank. If you have ideas, list them and I may have comments on which would be better or worse at first. This is not so crucial with respect to the nitrification issue, as plants will handle the ammonia regardless of fish, but some fish do better in established tanks and can have trouble in new setups where the general water conditions are less stable.

Any plants are fine, up to you, but some fast-growing ones at this initial stage is important. Stem plants do this, as does anything floating (Water Sprite, Duckweed). Some stem plants can be left floating, excellent again.

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Get something (fish) that you want in the tank. If you have ideas, list them and I may have comments on which would be better or worse at first. This is not so crucial with respect to the nitrification issue, as plants will handle the ammonia regardless of fish, but some fish do better in established tanks and can have trouble in new setups where the general water conditions are less stable.

Any plants are fine, up to you, but some fast-growing ones at this initial stage is important. Stem plants do this, as does anything floating (Water Sprite, Duckweed). Some stem plants can be left floating, excellent again.

Well, Byron you are way more an expert than me, but I'd still be cautious of cycling a tank and keeping fish alive, even with plants. If the plants don't have the right things going, light and nutrients etc., to soak up ammonia, don't you risk getting parameters that are harmful? I once had an ammonia spike in my (not heavily planted, but planted tank) when I was over feeding, and was shocked to see I had ammonia, because the tank had been cycled. Just saying. I'd still keep an eye on water parameters, and be ready to do a wc in flash if need be.

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Well, Byron you are way more an expert than me, but I'd still be cautious of cycling a tank and keeping fish alive, even with plants. If the plants don't have the right things going, light and nutrients etc., to soak up ammonia, don't you risk getting parameters that are harmful? I once had an ammonia spike in my (not heavily planted, but planted tank) when I was over feeding, and was shocked to see I had ammonia, because the tank had been cycled. Just saying. I'd still keep an eye on water parameters, and be ready to do a wc in flash if need be.

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I won't disagree on being ready to do water changes. But with sufficient live fast-growing plants, there should not be an issue. I've set up I don't know how many tanks with plants and never have ammonia or nitrite issues. Can't just be luck. One can't overload with the fish of course, and the plants have to be sufficient.

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