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Old 07-04-2012, 10:55 PM   #11
 
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The new tank will need to be cycled before ANY fish go into it, you can use some filter media from your current tank to "seed" it with good bacteria. It may risk the fishes health moving them into an uncycled larger tank.

The GH and KH test kit are beneficial but the API Master Kit which contains tests for Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, high and low pH range would be a very very beneficial addition. Test strips provide very inaccurate results. GH and KH measures the hardness or softness of your water and its ability to keep the pH stable. Low GH means you have soft water where as high GH means hard water. KH is important as it shows you how well the tank will keep the pH stable, pH swings can be deadly to fish.


The clown loach may eventually outgrow the tank as they can get to nearly 12". They are also shoaling fish and need a group of at least 5, with this alone it makes the tank overstocked.
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:55 AM   #12
 
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At least the bigger tank will allow the Clown Loach to have more room.

oh so you can get a gh kh test kit? would it be recommended i get one? so its differemt from ph kit right?
i took some water into my local fish shop for a test m he says its prestine water for angels and discus as its very soft water.
im not starting my 4ft set up for another week or two yet but i defeintly want my angels in there and loach n maybe my bristlenoses, i wanted more americans but unsure of what i can add that wont be too aggressive as i said, love the rams might opt for one if i can get them ordered in, maybe some schoaling fish? im unsure id love all the help and suggestions i can get! love my cichlids too they are amazing fish, thaniks heaps for your help termato very appreciated
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I refer to this thread a lot. Byron wrote this article on Water Hardness and pH in the aquarium. I would Highly Suggest you read this article. It is very informative and it basically says everything I would say right now...but in clearer...better terms haha.

Here you go: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...quarium-73276/

API Sells a test kit for gH and kH: GH & KH Test Kit - API

Their quite inexpensive at $7 but you don't really need it. Good to have though: Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Aquarian Freshwater GH & KH Test Kit

I have the API Master Test Kit which was recommended to me by multiple members on here. It has a liquid test for pH Low, pH High, Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate. All your basic Aquarium needs, I highly recommend you get this one first before getting the gH and kH test kit...if you don't already have it...or a good water based kit. Strips are ok...but not very reliable... You can just wait to get the new kit if you have something reliable already.

Here information on it:
Freshwater Master Test Kit - API

Here is the lowest price I found for $22, I got mine for $31:
Amazon.com: API SALTWATER MASTER TEST KIT: Pet Supplies Amazon.com: API SALTWATER MASTER TEST KIT: Pet Supplies

Local Fish Stores cary them, PetSmart and PetCo; make SURE they are NOT EXPIRED. You want a kit that has a date on it.

I will give you some more suggestions on stocking tomorrow, South American Amazon Fish are what I love! hahaha. Hopefully other people can give some good suggestions too.

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Edit: I totally made this post without reading what Tazman wrote because it was on a new page :/ I pretty much said the same things hahahah.

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Old 07-05-2012, 02:46 AM   #13
 
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i have a ph kit with the ph up & down powder n so on but didnt have the kh and gh, will definetly look out for one of those and will read byrons article a lil later on thanks for the referral, in the link u posted the kit was for saltwater? does that matter?
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:12 AM   #14
 
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i have a ph kit with the ph up & down powder n so on but didnt have the kh and gh, will definetly look out for one of those and will read byrons article a lil later on thanks for the referral, in the link u posted the kit was for saltwater? does that matter?
Oh wow I did! Yea it does matter. API sells a Freshwater master test kit (the first link). That is the one you want. I'm sorry. Good catch on that.

Is the pH kit you have strips or water based?
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:23 AM   #15
 
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the kit i have i water based and thats ok hahaha
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Old 07-05-2012, 07:26 PM   #16
 
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im open to stocking/stocking tips from anyone
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:43 AM   #17
 
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ok what about yo yo loaches and kissing gouramis? are they compatiable with angelfish and clown loach and bristlenoses??
are they good in a community?
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:54 AM   #18
 
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ok what about yo yo loaches and kissing gouramis? are they compatiable with angelfish and clown loach and bristlenoses??
are they good in a community?
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Long-finned upper fish should be avoided to prevent fin nipping; suitable upper fish are barbs, rasbora, danios, characins.

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Kissing gourami is not a good general community fish.

I know people that have kept Gouramis and Angels, but its not ideal.

That's what the profiles say, I have never kept either fish so I can't really be too much help on those two.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:59 AM   #19
 
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ok what about yo yo loaches and kissing gouramis? are they compatiable with angelfish and clown loach and bristlenoses??
are they good in a community?
Yoyos would be great to keep the clown company, but as Termato said, I don't think they would do well with the angels. I know others have done it, but I wouldn't put a gourami with an angelfish. Best thing with angelfish are more angelfish and small peaceful schooling fish that can't fit in their mouths. Things with a deeper body shape like pristella tetra, flame tetra, bleeding heart tetra, or the head and tail light tetra should coexist peacefully. Angels can have a tendency to eat the torpedo shaped tetra like neons and cardinals.
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Old 07-11-2012, 04:07 PM   #20
 
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Nothing much to add to the good advice others have given, except to reiterate that you do not need to waste money on a kit to test GH and KH. Once you know the GH and KH of your tap water, which was mentioned earlier in this thread, it is not going to change in the fish tank unless it is specifically targeted to raise/lower it, and you are not contemplating that, nor do you need to. The pH is worth having a kit for, since it will tend to lower naturally (no issue with these fish) and you want to know how far and be able to detect any sudden changes which can indicate problems.

I wouldn't put loaches with angelfish, some loach species can be fin nippy, and the angelfish long fins are too tempting. This has to be born in mind when selecting any tankmates. Gourami are not good companion fish since they are too much like the angels--territorial. The dominant male angelfish will consider the 55g tank "his," no matter what. Izzy also gave some characin suggestions, check the profiles.

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