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Old 04-20-2013, 03:07 PM   #21
 
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I had no choice. My sister bought "final sale fish"
1 green tiger barb (as small as the danio so very very young)
3 platys (about an inchpretty grown)
3 zebra danio (about 4 cm but pretty grown as well if i had to guess)
-.- no plants. no decoration. What do i do. I have to put the fish in. I asked the store no refunds or "give-backs" for that matter
Doyou understand the cycle issue? If not, read this post:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...m-cycle-38617/

To avoid the toxic effect of ammonia and then nitrite as that post will detail, your only option now is to do daily water changes of half the tank, every day, until it is cycled. Or until you add some fast-growing plants.

Aside from that, you have some fish issues. Barbs and danios are shoaling fish, they need a group of their own species. A 10g tank is not sufficient room for groups of all these fish, so I guess you can't do much about this. Check the profiles [click the shaded names] on the fish species.

Things cannot be rushed in this hobby, something we all had to learn.
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:21 PM   #22
 
Thats pretty heavily stocked for an uncycled tank... Be prepared to do lots of large water changes in the weeks upcoming. I would highly reccomend getting a bottle of seaochem prime, could be a life saver for your fish. Read up on the nitrogen cycle. Regarding your test results, high kh and ph and a gh of 0 sounds really unrelistic... What test kit are you using? Is it one of the strip test kits? Those are notorius for being unreliable. Is your source water tap water? I'm pretty sure 20ppm of nitrate in tap water in the U.S is illegal, there is a set limit of 10ppm (nitrate can also be poisonous to humans). Where do you live?

Edit: oh yeah, try to get a heater for your betta. Bettas are tropical fish and need to have warm water. You can commonly find heaters made for betta bowls.
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:35 PM   #23
 
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I know my sister came home with them. Poor guys...But what plant would be good? I didn't want to rush. I was going to get my betta's waste water and use that to help cycle but my sister was too soon. I am hoping to upgrade tank size in the mean time thats just too many fish, even I know that. Also I AM using strip tests. The fish store guy says he uses the same thing and his fish are fine. Its a nice clean place with healthy fish so I took his advice. As to ammonia and nitrite killers i have amquel and novaqua. And i used filter water for this. I also put in quickstart. I live in the hills in southern california my room is always humid/stuffy.
As to the betta I will try, right now I am low on money...
Edit: The actual tank with all the fish is setup. It is on my "aquarium" page.

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Old 04-21-2013, 04:37 AM   #24
 
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Any of the fast growing stem / floating plants...hornwort, water sprite, dwarf hygrophila. You should get at least a few good sized bunches. Just let them all float for now. Be sure to keep your light on for at least 8 hours for the plants. Be sure to do the water changes also. Best of luck
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:10 AM   #25
 
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one of the Platy is just laying there I don't know what's wrong with it I don't want iT to die is there anything I can do
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:38 PM   #26
 
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one of the Platy is just laying there I don't know what's wrong with it I don't want iT to die is there anything I can do
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A water change, daily. Use one of the ammonia products mentioned, follow their instructions.

Fish trouble is likely ammonia, but of course could be any one of several other issues that I frankly wouldn't worry about now. Cycling is your main concern, and get those floating plants.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:05 PM   #27
 
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The tiger barb is picking on everyone and I dont want to flush him alive nor kill him, so can I put him in a one gallon (for now) and put my betta in that 10 gallon? Or can I get a critter cage and put him completely under the water in the tank?
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The tiger barb is picking on everyone and I dont want to flush him alive nor kill him, so can I put him in a one gallon (for now) and put my betta in that 10 gallon? Or can I get a critter cage and put him completely under the water in the tank?
I would frankly destroy the barb (since the store won't take it back). This is how they behave, he will never improve. They are in our profiles as Tiger Barb, you can read more there.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:08 PM   #29
 
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Destroy?...
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Edit: Going to try a plastic mesh divider.

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Old 04-22-2013, 06:05 AM   #30
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The problem is that the TB needs to be in a group larger than you can accommodate and even then they can still do the same thing. The store won't take it back and, unless you are going to get another larger tank and buy more TBs, you are stuck... unless you can find someone to take it. Putting it in a 1 gallon for now... what is the later plan? There is a point that what you may choose to do may be harder on the fish than euthanizing it.

Impulse fish purchases are never a good idea and more often than not result in problems where fish die. Actually, store advised purchases, while not as often as pure impulse buys, still often have the same result.

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