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Old 05-21-2012, 05:26 PM   #21
 
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I was thinking about a hood too. I have no issues with DIY and my father is electricity obsessed, so it would be a fun project for him to help us put together. That's a really good idea...

I looked through some lights online and it looks like 48" T8s are 32watts.... That still only puts me at 0.53wpg with 2 of them... Is that really enough? It's a fairly deep tank as well, so I assume I'd need something more powerful?
No, those are fine. My two 48-inch tubes are 32w or 40w, depending. To explain: originally all 4-foot tubes were 40w, and T12 (T being the diameter in eighths of an inch, so 12/8 inch diameter). Then along came T8 (narrower obviously) and these are now being made more energy-efficient so they use less energy to produce the same basic light intensity, and you will see T8's in 40w, 34w and 32w. Watts makes no difference to the intensity here, but the lower watts will mean less cost in electricity to run them.

My Life-Glo tubes happen to still be 40w, but my GE and Phillips daylight tubes are both 32w. The light is basically identical. And two of these over my 5-foot 115g which is 2 feet deep is more than enough for a natural method tank.
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:49 PM   #22
 
You may just be my new best friend! LOL

If this all works out for me, I'm gonna owe you huge! LOL I won't hesitate to sell of my SUPER high end light (that's too big for this tank anyway) and my Co2 setup and everything that I've been hanging onto for too long! LOL
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:17 PM   #23
 
The leaves will be broader to get more light and ones below may not get a much. Having this issue with my crypts that dont get as much

Wish i had a nonbf tank so i could have a canopy. Help hide wires and lights!!
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Old 05-22-2012, 06:26 AM   #24
 
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Those lights work wonderfully, and also proves that the watts per gallon rule is completely bogus ;)

I have a 6 foot 125 gallon, and for full coverage I use one dual 48" T8 fixture and one dual 24" T8 fixture. I also use the 32W 6500K GE Daylight bulbs in the 48" fixture, you can buy them at home depot/lowes for less than $10 for a two pack. The 17W 24" tubes I ended up buying online as that's not something hardware stores stock (they only had T12, I needed T8), and the ones at pet stores are far more expensive. For fixtures, I used shop lights. The 48" fixture was $17. The only 48" dual T8 fixture sold by pet stores that I could find were $110 I think which is madness.

Anyways, this is what it looks like. I have a thick cover of floating plants, so everything underneath are low light plants.

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Old 05-22-2012, 09:07 AM   #25
 
Awesome! :) I wonder if my dad has any extra shop lights... I know he had a few, but put some up in the garage and his workshop... hummm... LOL

I'm excited for this project now! :) I wish we could get the water issue sorted out faster so I could get started on this! LOL
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Old 05-25-2012, 04:40 PM   #26
 
So what should I be looking for with lighting on a 20L or a small (4g or so) betta tank?
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Old 05-25-2012, 07:58 PM   #27
 
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So what should I be looking for with lighting on a 20L or a small (4g or so) betta tank?
Do you have a fixture, and if yes, what type--incandescant (screw-in sockets) or fluotresent tube, or something else?

Or do you want suggestions for a fixture? If yes, do you have a hood/cover now?
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:03 PM   #28
 
As of right now, I don't have anything, just potential tanks I'd like to set up... I was looking at this for a betta tank though...

Marineland Classic 4 Gallon Hidden LED Desktop Kit at PETCO

but I have NO CLUE about LED and plants... and they don't mention wattage or anything from what I can tell.

So I'm pretty open to anything.
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:56 AM   #29
 
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As of right now, I don't have anything, just potential tanks I'd like to set up... I was looking at this for a betta tank though...

Marineland Classic 4 Gallon Hidden LED Desktop Kit at PETCO

but I have NO CLUE about LED and plants... and they don't mention wattage or anything from what I can tell.

So I'm pretty open to anything.
First, I would avoid the linked setup. That blue light would not be good for plants, but even more it will distort the colours of the Betta (and everything else).

LED light can work, but it must be daylight only. I have seen small tanks (under 20g) with LED in a local store, and the plants are doing fine. And this after several months. On a really small tank such as a 5g or so for a Betta, LED is likely the best. Just make sure it is daylight with around 6500K.

On the 20g, I use an incandescent fixture (these are less expensive than fluorescent) with two sockets. For bulbs I use two 10w Daylight CFL (compact fluorescent) bulbs, GE brand in my case. Plants do very well. A single fluorescent T8 tube would also work, and use a bit less energy, though initially a bit more cost. Either will be fine.

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Old 05-27-2012, 05:56 PM   #30
 
:) Cool, sounds good! :)

The tank I linked doesn't mention too much detail about the lighting (I'll have to check it out in the store and see if I can get more info off of the box) but from what I can tell, the blue lighting is just the moon lights, which I probably would never even use other than to flip on for a minute if the kids want to see the tank at night. I don't use tanks as night lights or anything, so I'd never leave the moon lights on.

I actually might have a light that would work for the 20L somewhere... I need to clean out my garage and sell some things... I have no idea what all I still have in there! LOL
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