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Old 02-04-2014, 03:15 PM   #21
 
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Thank you everyone again. I am passing the info to my husband, the 36 will be for him, the 20 is mine.

Well, after days of everything going good, the angelfish died. He was fine this morning and ate his breakfast but I just found him floating. :( Only 2 dwarf gouramis, 1 neon, lady betta and pleco made it thru.

I do not want to EVER go through this again! So help me stock the 20 gallon please. I would like to keep the blue gourami, I have always wanted one. Lets work around him, ok? How about a bunch of guppies?

As for the soft water, ours has such a high iron content it turned my hair orange before the softener. I can imagine that would be a bigger issue for the fish than the softened water, wouldn't it?

The kuhli loach look to much like a snake for my husband to keep. What looks like the clown loach and have that fun active personality? tiger barbs? He will have the 36 for his. He is looking to replace about 10 of the fish we lost this weekend for his. I have passed on your heart-felt caution and concerns. He is confident he can make them work as he has in the past.

Are Veiled Angelfish smaller than the other angels? I never saw them before last week.

I will see if we can take the little waste factory (pleco) back. I'm not sure if they will take returns but I will try.

I just want this to work. If this happens again, I will have a couple tanks for sale.............
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Old 02-04-2014, 03:38 PM   #22
 
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Don't give up on your tanks! The first six months with a new setup is by far the hardest. After that things usually stabilize as long as you follow basic procedures like water changes and regular feeding schedule. Actually after the first two monthes things are NORMALY a lot simpler. So hang in there! My oldest tank has been up for 17 years continuously with only minor weekly maintainence.
The key is patience. If you fully cycle your tank before restocking you should be ok as long as your tapwater is suitable for water changes.
As far as your plans for a blue gourami, I would say great choice... they are very tough and interesting fish in addition to being very beautiful, but they are also quite aggressive and can grow fairly large, so guppies might not be a good choice for tankmates.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:16 PM   #23
 
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OK, I am not giving up yet.
It was just devastating to have had dead fish every day. Especially when I lost all my baby guppies.

Thank you for your kind words everyone.

I know the gourami are aggressive. They both are dwarfs though, they shouldn't get too big should they? I read about 4 inches.

Also, if I put a floating breeder plant in the main tank for the guppy fry, what are the chances of survival with the betta and gourami in there? The separate floating "crib" was a major hassle last time.
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Old 02-04-2014, 06:57 PM   #24
 
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I do not want to EVER go through this again! So help me stock the 20 gallon please. I would like to keep the blue gourami, I have always wanted one. Lets work around him, ok? How about a bunch of guppies?
1 Dwarf Gourami
5 MALE Guppies
10 Zebra Danio

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The kuhli loach look to much like a snake for my husband to keep. What looks like the clown loach and have that fun active personality? tiger barbs? He will have the 36 for his. He is looking to replace about 10 of the fish we lost this weekend for his. I have passed on your heart-felt caution and concerns. He is confident he can make them work as he has in the past.
I'm sorry to say, but your husband is going to kill all ten of those fish if he does that. How about some short-bodied loaches like yo-yos or boitas? If he goes and gets these fish again, not only will they begin killing eachother, but it will be too much for a new tank to handle and the water quality will kill them. The tank needs to cycle first.

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Are Veiled Angelfish smaller than the other angels? I never saw them before last week.
Veiled Angelfish get just as big as other angels.

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I will see if we can take the little waste factory (pleco) back. I'm not sure if they will take returns but I will try.
Even just "donating" him will be better for him and you in the long run.
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:51 PM   #25
 
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I understand how hard it is. These first few months with fish are the worst. You will lose more fish in those months than almost any other time. If you stick with it, it gets better. It really does.

Flint gave you a pretty good stock for your 20 gal. Personally I'd do 10 tetra like x-ray tetra instead as they are a little more calm than danio. Gourami tend to like calmer tank mates as they can be pretty shy themselves.

As for your husband, since he doesn't like the kuhli loaches, he could get zebra loaches. They have the same shape and playful temperment as clown loaches, but they don't get nearly as large. They are suitable for a 36 gal tank.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:48 AM   #26
 
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Thank you for all the ideas !

Flint: I still have the betta. She will go in the other tank if/when the gourami gets cranky. The blue leaves her alone but the flame, which will go to my mom, does chase her a little. She hangs out with the neon.

You don't think I should get any female guppies?

The store said they will take the pleco but "it wont go back in their tanks" which means probably euthanasia. We are trying to find some place else. There are 6 pet stores in our area, but we are 30 minutes from the closest two. We have developed quite a routine to transport them home safely.

Koimaiden: I do like the tetra better. Can you mix different types happily? I thought about getting a couple more neons to join the one we have left. Then I could get about 5 of a different variety.

What do you think of my "fish watcher"? Our avatar is our dog Carrie, in front of our house, in the Sunfish fish beds that we are overrun with every year. She watches the tanks too! The fish come running when we go out side ever since we started throwing out our old bread. They will now eat from our hand!
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Old 02-05-2014, 09:26 AM   #27
 
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Our LFS takes in all the Plecos for the winter and keeps them in one big huge tank... then sells them back out each spring to all the pond owners in the area... almost like a Pleco rental of sorts. And they can never get enough on hand to serve the ponds in spring. It's cold up here... the Goldfish and Koi can winter over if the pond is deep enough but the Plecos cannot. Who wants to house a monster foot long ++ Pleco over winter in their home in a tank??
So...It's finding the right place for him for sure. Good luck.
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Old 02-05-2014, 10:15 AM   #28
 
As a beginner that isn't comfortable euthanizing fish or financially able to get a larger tank, I definately don't suggest females. You'll be overstocked in two months easy. I'm glad you're looking for another place to take him. He shouldn't be euthanized but he definately needs a new home. You could have two groups of 6 smaller tetra species rather than a larger group of one but they do need their own kind.
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Old 02-05-2014, 10:54 AM   #29
 
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That sounds great! I will be looking this weekend most likely. Not sure if I will get anyone yet, but I will be on the hunt!
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Old 02-05-2014, 09:29 PM   #30
 
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Tetra can mix rather well together. Well the commonly found beginner ones can. Getting a shoal of 6-8 neons and then another shoal of 6-8 would be a great stock for your tank. Glowlight tetra and X-ray tetra are two rather hardy species. I like the look of the glowlights best.

As Flint said, female guppies mean babies. And babies means an overstocked tank. Too many fish and disease issues arise. Best leave the females out until you want to breed guppies!

Your pup is quite the cutie! She looks like a lab. Sunfish are pretty neat fish. I'm surprised they don't chase you away from their nests!
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