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Old 08-21-2011, 12:14 AM   #11
 
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My husband bought a 30 gallon tank (I think we may need another). He has...

Balloon Molly 3
Neon Tetra 2
Obessa 3
Dalmation molly 2
Molly 1
Albino Cory 2
tiger barb 5
Cichlid 3
Rasbora 3
Albino rainbow fish 2
Black skirt tetra 3
Head n tail light(?) 2
Dragon Goby 1

I think he has too many but all are thriving. With the combination in this tank can anyone forsee a problem with the cohabitants? Food, what would be best for all? Please forgive my lack of knowledge.
Hello and welcome to TFK We all start somewhere. For the rainbowfish do you know what type you have? There are three different types that are listed in our fish profiles. Also do you know what type of rasbora that you have, there are several species of rasboras. You can find additional information on the fish by either clicking on the shaded name of a fish, or you can find the link to the profiles at the top of the page second tab from the left. Many of the fish, tetras, rasboras, rainbowfish, and corys are shoaling type of fish and need to be kept in groups of at least 6, and most do better in larger groups. Also some of these fish require different types of water conditions, some doing better in softer acidic water while others need hard basic water such as livebearers like mollys. Also do you know what the sex of your mollys are how many males and how many females? With livebearers it is recommended to keep them in a ratio of 2 females to 1 male so that the male does not harass the female to death, 3:1 ratio is even better. I would recommend checking out the profiles we have here on the fish to learn more about their needs. Definitly a larger tank, and actually several tanks would be needed to keep all these fish within the groups that they need and also some of these fish like tiger barbs do not do well within community settings. Also for the albino corys they are same as the bronze cory, although the albinos from what I have heard need even less light, which can be achieved by floating plants.

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Old 08-21-2011, 12:47 AM   #12
 
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You are definitely going to need an additional tank (or tanks really) if you want to keep these fish.

One option would be to buy a 20 gal to keep the neons, head and tail lights, rasboras (I'm assuming they are Harlequins) and corys, increase their numbers to at least six for each species. Utilize the 30 gal for the tiger barbs (add more of them). Then you would need a larger tank in which the odessa barbs, kribs, black skirts, and maybe the rainbows(not sure what you mean by this - a rainbow shark or actual rainbow fish?) could go (also in larger numbers).

That leaves the mollies, which need different water conditions and the goby (no idea on this one, but some mollies can manage in brackish water, though by the looks of it the goby would make a meal out of them if in the same tank long term).

That would be a 20 gal for the small tetras/rasboras/corys
current 30 gal for the tiger barbs
at least a 36" long tank for the other barbs, black skirts, etc.
another 30"-36" long hardwater tank for the mollies
and who knows for the goby - something big

I would just try to return some of them and get your money back, maybe keep what you have of the neons, rasboras, head and tail lights, and corys and exchange the others for more of each of them and put tem in the 30 gal.
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Old 08-21-2011, 12:50 AM   #13
 
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Sorry BarbH, your post wasn't there when I was writing mine, so I have have repeated some of your points
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Old 08-21-2011, 12:52 AM   #14
 
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Not a problem Have had the same thing happen myself, especially when I am looking up and trying to verify information before I have posted something to a thread
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Old 08-21-2011, 01:22 AM   #15
 
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After reading a little bit about the goby, it seems as if I jumped to conclusions based on its looks. Apparently it is not likely to eat the mollies. However, it does have specific requirements for feeding and habitat that mean it is not really suited to keep with the other fish.
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:12 AM   #16
 
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Hi Quantum,

Welcome to TFK. I agree with the others that your best bet is to rehome/return a lot of those fish in order to save yourself and the fish a world of hurt down the road.

It sounds like a good reason to get another larger tank IMO if you have the room for it. Good luck and keep us posted.
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Old 08-21-2011, 11:33 AM   #17
 
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Welcome to Tropical Fish Keeping forum.

I must sound the same dire warnings that others already have. Several tanks, not just one larger, will be needed to adequately care for all the fish you now have.

And while the fish may not "appear" to be in trouble, they are, and very serious trouble. There are fish together than should never, ever be together, and that means they are causing each other considerable stress. There are fish with different water requirements, and different environments (items in the tank, like substrate, rock, wood, plants, caves...). This causes more stress.

Trouble does not always manifest itself physically; new aquarists sometimes think that because the fish are not fighting, there is no issue. But the stress is there, and stress weakens the fish's immune system bringing on other health issues that would otherwise likely never occur. A shorter than normal lifespan almost always results. "The fish just up and died" is usually linked to stress-related issues that the aquarist has ignored.

You will have to return a lot of those fish, or acquire several more (and some larger) tanks in order to provide a suitable environment to allow the fish to be healthy.

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Old 08-21-2011, 12:28 PM   #18
 
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What the heck are you doing!!!!!! U have very very mean fish in with fish that cant defend them selves. To are going to have some dead fish.
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Old 08-21-2011, 02:40 PM   #19
 
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You are definitely going to need an additional tank (or tanks really) if you want to keep these fish.

One option would be to buy a 20 gal to keep the neons, head and tail lights, rasboras (I'm assuming they are Harlequins) and corys, increase their numbers to at least six for each species. Utilize the 30 gal for the tiger barbs (add more of them). Then you would need a larger tank in which the odessa barbs, kribs, black skirts, and maybe the rainbows(not sure what you mean by this - a rainbow shark or actual rainbow fish?) could go (also in larger numbers).

That leaves the mollies, which need different water conditions and the goby (no idea on this one, but some mollies can manage in brackish water, though by the looks of it the goby would make a meal out of them if in the same tank long term).

That would be a 20 gal for the small tetras/rasboras/corys
current 30 gal for the tiger barbs
at least a 36" long tank for the other barbs, black skirts, etc.
another 30"-36" long hardwater tank for the mollies
and who knows for the goby - something big

I would just try to return some of them and get your money back, maybe keep what you have of the neons, rasboras, head and tail lights, and corys and exchange the others for more of each of them and put tem in the 30 gal.
I would go with this setup but I think the Mollys and the goby would be okay together if you get a tank long enough for the goby.
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Old 08-21-2011, 03:25 PM   #20
 
I am not worried as I am reading I should be... my fish will be dieing!?. Way to scare off the newby.

It's my Husbands tank and we will be getting another aquarium.

I will not be returning my fish but will rehome them, here.

Thank you to the many that have suggested the grouping and tank issue as thats what I was hoping to hear about.

I will make another album to those who want to give me good advice on what I need.


Thanks!

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