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post #1 of 7 Old 08-15-2011, 09:52 AM Thread Starter
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Hello everyone, so I was raised with animals and my dad had a big 2 ft tank when I was younger. My mum had a few piranha's but she got rid of them as she couldn't deal with their aggressive behaviour. Well this year I started up my own tropical tank, was not big at all but I let it cycle for about 2 weeks before adding 4 rainbow guppies and 1 baby common pleco. I later added 5 harlequin rasboras and all was okay.I went to my local pet store and brought 1 glass catfish and about 2 buenos aires as he said they can all live together. They started attacking my orange rainbow guppies and they eventually died but I returned then and replaced it with 2 dwarf gourami's and added 2 more glass cats as I heard they cannot live alone. So everythings peacful, at this point there were 2 rainbow guppies, 1 common pleco, 5 harlequin rasboras, 3 glass cats and 2 dwarf gourami's. One gourami started attacking the other and it died although I moved it. One of my glass cats had white spots so I wnt to the local aquarium to ask about it and they gave me meds for it, however this just wiped out all the glass cats, the other day I added 5 neon tetras and 1 columbian tetra and a moss ball. I got home to find it was a fake moss ball (plant wrapped around plasic ball secured with fish wire) I was told I could get a refund until I got there and they only offered store credit. So I got 1 more columbian tetra and 2 other fish I'm not too sure what they are. It seems I can't rely on anyone for information on fish that is correct and it is costing lives! Were can I find accurate information on tropical fish? They are all doing fine at the moment but will have to upgrade the tank again soon because of the common pleco. (I also wasn't told much about them either) any help is grately appreciated.
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post #2 of 7 Old 08-15-2011, 11:58 AM
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Hello everyone, so I was raised with animals and my dad had a big 2 ft tank when I was younger. My mum had a few piranha's but she got rid of them as she couldn't deal with their aggressive behaviour. Well this year I started up my own tropical tank, was not big at all but I let it cycle for about 2 weeks before adding 4 rainbow guppies and 1 baby common pleco. I later added 5 harlequin rasboras and all was okay.I went to my local pet store and brought 1 glass catfish and about 2 buenos aires as he said they can all live together. They started attacking my orange rainbow guppies and they eventually died but I returned then and replaced it with 2 dwarf gourami's and added 2 more glass cats as I heard they cannot live alone. So everythings peacful, at this point there were 2 rainbow guppies, 1 common pleco, 5 harlequin rasboras, 3 glass cats and 2 dwarf gourami's. One gourami started attacking the other and it died although I moved it. One of my glass cats had white spots so I wnt to the local aquarium to ask about it and they gave me meds for it, however this just wiped out all the glass cats, the other day I added 5 neon tetras and 1 columbian tetra and a moss ball. I got home to find it was a fake moss ball (plant wrapped around plasic ball secured with fish wire) I was told I could get a refund until I got there and they only offered store credit. So I got 1 more columbian tetra and 2 other fish I'm not too sure what they are. It seems I can't rely on anyone for information on fish that is correct and it is costing lives! Were can I find accurate information on tropical fish? They are all doing fine at the moment but will have to upgrade the tank again soon because of the common pleco. (I also wasn't told much about them either) any help is grately appreciated.

Hello and welcome to TFK As many of us have experienced we have found that most of the time we are unable to rely upon the advice given at the fish stores. For finding information on the fish one of the areas on this site that I would like to direct you to is the tropical fish profiles, the link can be found at the top of the page second tab from the left. Most of the common fish that are kept can be found here. Also you can always ask questions here on the site about compatibitly on different fish, and also what will work for the setup that you have. We have many knowledgable members here that are more than happy to help. Just to let you know tetras and rasboras are shoaling fish that should be kept in groups of at least 6. Also what is the size of your current tank? Just for future knowledge catfish are a scaleless fish and are more sensitive to medications, it is unfortunate that you lost your glass catfish. Also not sure if you have found out by now how big the common pleco can get but it is recommended that they have at least a 75 gallon tank or larger which is roughly under 300 liters. Sorry not very familiar with the tank sizes when dealing with liters, always looking up the conversions, but hopefully this gives you an idea. Also you will notice that in the post the highligted names of the common names of fish by clicking on that it will also take you to their profiles.
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post #3 of 7 Old 08-15-2011, 12:05 PM
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Pet stores, especially if they are large chain stores like Petsmart and Petco, are notoriously unreliable in the information they give out. The salespeople just aren't really trained, or even necessarily "enthusiasts" about fish keeping. I would double check any "advice" they give you before taking their word for it - I've learned that lesson the hard way several times over.

I recommend trying to find a local pet store that specializes in fish, or at least a privately owned pet store that is more concerned with animal and fish health than profits.

If you can't, I've had great experiences on this forum getting help and advice. There are a lot of experts here with the same goal in mind- helping everyone provide the best and safest environment for their fish.

There are fish profiles for many species that you can find at the top of the forum - these will start to give you an idea of whether or not you are on the right track with the fish you already have.

Before you add new fish, if you aren't sure of what you're getting, ask on this forum and you will quickly get some responses to help you figure out if certain fish really can live together.

Glass catfish are extremely fragile. Catfish in general are intolerant of standard medications. When treating for ich, it's usually recommended you use a half-dose for catfish. Glass cats will be especially sensitive, as you've just learned with the wipe-out.

Dwarf Gouramis are semi-aggressive, especially toward each other. It's important to have a heavily planted tank with a LOT of swimming space for any that you have - about 10 gallons per dwarf gourami.

You don't mention how large your tank is, but when you post to ask for advice the first thing you will be asked is information about your tank to make sure you are getting advice based on the set-up you have. You'll want to know volume of tank, water parameters (ammonia, nitrate, nitrite, hardness, and pH), as well as what the substrate is and what else is in the tank (live plants, fake plants, driftwood, anything that might change the water condition, type of filter used, aeration, heater, etc). You'll also be asked for care and water change schedules, and many times what you're feeding your fish and how often, etc. There is a sticky at the top of the forums with all the information needed for experts to give you the best advice possible. You will make it a much easier process if you include this in your original post.

I am far from an expert on this stuff, I still post on here asking for advice often but the amount i've learned in a short time is far more than any of my pet stores have taught me.

Good luck! Unfortunately sometimes it takes the mistakes to learn what you did wrong, but with any luck some of the members here can help you avoid those mistakes.
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post #4 of 7 Old 08-15-2011, 02:06 PM
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Welcome to Tropical Fish Keeping forum. Glad you joined us.

As the previous members have said, it pays to research your fish before you acquire them. Can't say more than that without knowing your tank size, it is impossible for us to suggest more/less of the fish you have, some may have to go, others may need more...

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The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #5 of 7 Old 08-15-2011, 03:11 PM
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hi and welcome first of all :)
where have you been to buy your fish ?
there are many places that will just sell fish without any interest at all,but that goes
for a lot of pets,i bought frogs the other day,and not one place asked me if i had the correct equipment
or habbitat advise,also i was told in one shop "um yeah,they're green and they hop" .
we need to know the size of the tank,and how you cycled please,any plants ? ,my plecs grew in next to no time and began to cause damage.
as much detail about your tank,the better it is for us,unfortunatly for you i think you've
added sensitive fish to a new tank,and this is what happens,not intirely you fault,
we've all been there and done it,and thought the shop was correct.

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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post #6 of 7 Old 08-17-2011, 09:58 AM
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Just wanted to welcome you to the forum and fish keeping. I agree with what everyone else has said. ; )

Kindest Regards,
Amanda

Keeping fish its not a hobby it is a passion!

55 gallon, 44 gallon, one 20 gallon tank, three 10 gallon tanks, and a 2.5 gallon all with real plants.

I have MTS and there is no cure.

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post #7 of 7 Old 08-17-2011, 10:14 AM
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5x2x2 aro,highfin bat,fei feng,ST,albino tinfoil,c.perch
4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
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