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new tank set up, advice please?
Old 07-12-2010, 11:56 AM   #11
 
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thanks byron.
i won't get a BN then.
i'd like to know how many corys i could safely fit in the tank though....is 6 pandas and 2 sterbas too many? would 4 pandas and 2 sterbas work? i need a rough idea :)
i have lots of old sand a gravel from previous tanks which i could wash up but i don't really want to put substrate into the tank while it's full of water. plus it's much harder to vacuum with substrate.
after reading about barbel erosion i'm going to try to keep the floor of the tank as clean as possible, though. i don't want my beloved corys dying :(

just another quick question, i know the answer will probably be no but i thought i'd ask anyway. i have one gold gourami in the tank and she is so pretty i would like to get another one, but the last time i had two gouramis they fought so much i had to separate them (that was in a 5 gallon tank though). would it be a bad idea to get another gourami? i do love them...
If you want two species of cory, then always minimum 3 of each, so 3-4 panda and 3 sterbai. Panda are especially chummy I find, asnd are almost always together, sterbai less so, but still they appreciate knowing they have company.

As long as the gravel is smooth, they'll be OK. It is general tank "cleanliness" that matters, keeping nitrates low, regular water changes, etc. Plants help with this.

A second gourmai in a 15g, no. A 36-inch tank is recommended (see out profile, it is the Blue Gourami, same species). They attain 5-6 inches and are territorial.
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Old 07-12-2010, 06:30 PM   #12
 
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Panda are especially chummy I find, asnd are almost always together,
My pandas seem very independent and they spread out in the tank. I'll find three around the same area, and then one will be way over the other side by himself.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:34 PM   #13
 
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i've never seen a 6 inch gourami, although they probably dont sell fully grown ones in shops. i believe you when you say they are territorial...thats why i had to seperate my pearl gouramis. so i won't get another one.

i notice that with my three pandas, although they will swim around all together, more often than not two will 'pair off' and go scavenging around the tank while one is left behind looking forlorn...which is why i want more of them. its never the same one that's left behind...i think they must like to be in pairs or something. i want to even out the numbers (to 4 or to 6) so they all have a 'partner'.
i may have to pass on the sterba's - they are so EXPENSIVE. the cheapest i've found are still $9 each.
i always thought that corys of different species would shoal together - is this true?
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:10 AM   #14
 
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i've never seen a 6 inch gourami, although they probably dont sell fully grown ones in shops. i believe you when you say they are territorial...thats why i had to seperate my pearl gouramis. so i won't get another one.

i notice that with my three pandas, although they will swim around all together, more often than not two will 'pair off' and go scavenging around the tank while one is left behind looking forlorn...which is why i want more of them. its never the same one that's left behind...i think they must like to be in pairs or something. i want to even out the numbers (to 4 or to 6) so they all have a 'partner'.
i may have to pass on the sterba's - they are so EXPENSIVE. the cheapest i've found are still $9 each.
i always thought that corys of different species would shoal together - is this true?
Corys are shoaling fish which means they occur in large groups in nature (see that video kitten penang posted the other day) and the group is of their own species. Obviously they feel comfortable when they are together like that, and that means less stress which means better health and better immune systems to fight off little things that would quickly bring down a stressed fish.

They also occur in mixed species groups in nature; more than one species, but always dozens if not hundreds of each species. My experience has been that corys together will be more relaxed, and having several of each species makes this easier. In my 115g I have some 25 corys, most are 4-5 of each species. Givwen this option the corys will do what they like. I can clearly detect some species spending more time with themselves than with other species. All species will separate, sometimes into 2 or 3, sometimes individual. The C. metae are almost always with other species individually, whereas the 5 C. reticulatus always stay either together (2-3, sometime 4, sometimes all 5) or on their own, but within eye sight of each other. They "know" they are all there, and that relaxes them. Just like fish that are somewhat "shy" needing wood or plants for shelter; if it is provided they will feel more protected and come out more than if it is not provided and they are constantly under threat, as they perceive it. Providing the right environment for each fish we keep is highly important for that fish's continuing good health and long life.
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Old 07-13-2010, 08:41 PM   #15
 
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i'd like to have even numbers of each species even so. i don't know, its weird but in the past whenever i've kept uneven numbers of fish, ONE has always died so i end up with even numbers. weird huh?
anyway i'm thinking 4-6 panda corys and 2-4 sterbas. would i be able to fit that many fish in my tank? I'll probably have to start off with just two sterbas anyway, and save up for the other two.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:00 PM   #16
 
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Admittedly, it's unlikely... Your cories could be pairing off to try to find a place to spawn.

With few or no plants and no substrate, the eggs could be getting eaten within seconds...
Are one or two of the cories a bit more plump than the rest?
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:29 PM   #17
 
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well...first i only got these corys a week ago and they are still very young, so it seems unlikely they'd be breeding. at this age it's impossible to sex them. one is larger, one is medium sized and one is smaller. like i said its never the same two that are swimming around together. i think they just like to be in pairs. often they will sit all three in a row, though. very cute.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:31 PM   #18
 
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p.s. my tank is actually heavily planted, well i've got an enourmous java fern growing on a piece of driftwood and heaps of elodea floating at the other end of the tank, and also a ceramic log for the catfish to hide in. i'm looking into getting some java moss as well. just because my tank is bare bottom doesn't mean its also undecorated :P
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:26 AM   #19
 
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I have a pair of Goldens and they do fine. However for your tank i would advise against it simply because of stocking and space restrictions you have. In a well (if not heavily) planted large tank my two have been happy as clams and have not been aggressive towards each other or the other fish. I attribute this to them having plenty of places to get away from each other and having quick tank mates.




I recommend you get minimum 3 of each of the cory you are talking about, and see how everything does before considering any other fish for the tank.
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:23 AM   #20
 
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wow you have a lovely tank! i'm not risking getting another gourami though.
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