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post #11 of 38 Old 01-17-2012, 01:37 PM Thread Starter
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I just performed about a 40% water change because I just found one of the guppies dead. I read somewhere that if a fish dies in the tank you should do a water change asap.
I have no idea what happened to him. :(

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post #12 of 38 Old 01-19-2012, 11:26 PM Thread Starter
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well, all my guppies are dead. Dunno why. But the other 3 are doing great!

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post #13 of 38 Old 01-19-2012, 11:41 PM
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I wouldn't recommend getting any more red eye tetra. They should be in groups but your tank is not big enough to support a group of them. I would return the one you do have.
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I wouldn't recommend getting any more red eye tetra. They should be in groups but your tank is not big enough to support a group of them. I would return the one you do have.
Well that stinks, I can not return him. You dont think one more should be ok?

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Well that stinks, I can not return him. You dont think one more should be ok?

They may not take him back for money return, but I'd hope they would at least "take him", for you.

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Yes.

I have changed half the water in all my tanks every week (once weekly) for 20+ years. Most of us consider the weekly water change essential to healthy fish. The volume can depend a bit on the tank, live plants, etc., but once a week is a good habit to get into. Choose a day when you will normally have the time, say Saturday or Sunday morning if you are in school or work. Regularity is more likely to be "regular."

I did the water change yesterday and today one of my platy's was belly up. I checked the ammonia and found a small spike, dunno if that was the reason he died. Any suggestions please?

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I did the water change yesterday and today one of my platy's was belly up. I checked the ammonia and found a small spike, dunno if that was the reason he died. Any suggestions please?
I assume you tested for ammonia, what was the number? And nitrites?

Also, is the tap water and tank water reasonably close in parameters (pH, temperature)?

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I assume you tested for ammonia, what was the number? And nitrites?

Also, is the tap water and tank water reasonably close in parameters (pH, temperature)?
I have a test that you match the color of the water after adding 8 + 8 drops of solution to a card, the color matched with the reading of 0.25 ppm.
The temperature is 77, that is what my heater keeps it on. I can not make it higher or lower, if it goes lower, the thermostat kicks it on till it reaches temp.
Unfortunately my faucet/ water source is not in a close parameter to the tank, so I bought a bucket from the pet store specifically for filling the tank when doing a water change.
-Im thinking, since its only week 2, that there isnt enough good bacteria in there yet to stabilize the ammonia.
I brought a water sample to the pet store for them to test it, they said everything (ph/ nitrates and nitrites are good, just the ammonia is a very tiny bit higher then it should be.

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I have a test that you match the color of the water after adding 8 + 8 drops of solution to a card, the color matched with the reading of 0.25 ppm.
The temperature is 77, that is what my heater keeps it on. I can not make it higher or lower, if it goes lower, the thermostat kicks it on till it reaches temp.
Unfortunately my faucet/ water source is not in a close parameter to the tank, so I bought a bucket from the pet store specifically for filling the tank when doing a water change.
-Im thinking, since its only week 2, that there isnt enough good bacteria in there yet to stabilize the ammonia.
I brought a water sample to the pet store for them to test it, they said everything (ph/ nitrates and nitrites are good, just the ammonia is a very tiny bit higher then it should be.
This is probably the effects of the cycling. Some fish manage to survive initially, but ammonia and nitrite poisoning is severe and may weaken the fish or cause internal problems that cause the death of the fish down the road.

Just a suggestion, next time you take water to the pet store for testing, ask them to give you the numbers. They can write them down for you. I know they often say "looks OK," or "its in the acceptable range," but their idea of OK and acceptable may not be ours. Without knowing exactly what's occurring water-wise, it can be difficult to diagnose problems.

I will assume you are using a water conditioner for the tap water. And if the temp is close by hand it is OK.

Have you tested the tap water for ammonia?

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This is probably the effects of the cycling. Some fish manage to survive initially, but ammonia and nitrite poisoning is severe and may weaken the fish or cause internal problems that cause the death of the fish down the road.

Just a suggestion, next time you take water to the pet store for testing, ask them to give you the numbers. They can write them down for you. I know they often say "looks OK," or "its in the acceptable range," but their idea of OK and acceptable may not be ours. Without knowing exactly what's occurring water-wise, it can be difficult to diagnose problems.

I will assume you are using a water conditioner for the tap water. And if the temp is close by hand it is OK.

Have you tested the tap water for ammonia?
I understand, and appreciate the help Byron.
Next time I will definitely get the numbers, Im going back next week for another test.
I have tested the tap water and it gets a zero reading for ammonia.
So far, thankfully, the other 5 fish are doing well. They are eating and acting normal so Im just gonna pray that they make it.
I have been adding the water conditioner when I do the water change, and also I have been adding something called Stress Zyme, for the good bacteria.
Maybe I should do a water change every 2 weeks because the water is really clear, no build up of any sort. And it seems things go nutty when I perform that 25% change.

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