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New to this. My fish keep dying, usually when I do water changes or add fish.
Old 08-12-2010, 01:25 AM   #41
 
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You can use this stuff instead of the loose stuff if you don't want to mess with a bunch of fibers, just cut it to size, they should have it at both petsmart and petco, also smaller shops might carry it too. Plus if you cant afford to go out and buy the sponge filter, air line, and air pump you can just use that same stuff in your HOB to reduce the current like I did.

I've noticed since doing that the particles in my water travel less then 1 cm / sec compared with before it was around 5 or 6 cm / sec, its not optimal, but it is a good temporary solution. The plants that were getting blown around before, are no longer and starting to recover, plus all the floating plants were struggling for something to grab onto with the high current aren't anymore.
I do hope to upgrade my filter soon.

Ok, so, I think I have figured out what needs to go into my filter. I am just not sure how I should put it in there. Its an HOB, and it takes a cartridge that slides in, there is some space behind the cartridge, but not big enough for the bio-balls. How should I pack in the foam and media into the filter? Should I also use carbon? Thanks!
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Old 08-12-2010, 02:07 AM   #42
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I do hope to upgrade my filter soon.

Ok, so, I think I have figured out what needs to go into my filter. I am just not sure how I should put it in there. Its an HOB, and it takes a cartridge that slides in, there is some space behind the cartridge, but not big enough for the bio-balls. How should I pack in the foam and media into the filter? Should I also use carbon? Thanks!
It would help to know what filter you have and if you can get a picture of the inside of it, also did this filter come with bio-balls? As for the carbon, if you are doing a planted tank then no carbon, if you stick with fake plants and just have fish then the carbon should be a bit beneficial. The reason we don't use activated carbon inside planted tanks is because we also fertilize them to help the plants, and some of the stuff in the fertilizer that the plants need will be removed by the activated carbon.
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:24 AM   #43
 
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It would help to know what filter you have and if you can get a picture of the inside of it, also did this filter come with bio-balls? As for the carbon, if you are doing a planted tank then no carbon, if you stick with fake plants and just have fish then the carbon should be a bit beneficial. The reason we don't use activated carbon inside planted tanks is because we also fertilize them to help the plants, and some of the stuff in the fertilizer that the plants need will be removed by the activated carbon.

I have a HOB Aqua tech 20-40 gallon and a aqua tech 10-30 gallon in my 55 gallon tank. I have tried to find a pic of it online without the lid on it, but i didn't have any luck.I bought the tank and filters used from someone. It came with bio-balls in it, but with the cartridge in it, they do not fit. I can try to get a pic of it later on today. I do not have any live plants at the moment, but I was gonna pick up a couple easy ones to take care of. Should I maybe wait on getting live plants?
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:26 PM   #44
 
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I have a HOB Aqua tech 20-40 gallon and a aqua tech 10-30 gallon in my 55 gallon tank. I have tried to find a pic of it online without the lid on it, but i didn't have any luck.I bought the tank and filters used from someone. It came with bio-balls in it, but with the cartridge in it, they do not fit. I can try to get a pic of it later on today. I do not have any live plants at the moment, but I was gonna pick up a couple easy ones to take care of. Should I maybe wait on getting live plants?
You don't really have to wait; live plants can only make a tank healthier IMHO.
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:10 PM   #45
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I agree with the above ^, cant hurt to get plants in soon then later. As for your filter.... reading the description on the manufactures website says nothing about bio-balls, I think we can assume they were an addition by the last owner, one that is not necessary. You should be able to figure out a way for the filter material to fit in the hole just right, that the benefit of the filter material I sent you, you can cut it to the right size to make it fit properly.
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Old 08-17-2010, 02:02 PM   #46
 
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The filter media that they make for your filter has carbon in it. If you get the plants you can make a slit in the fabric part and shake the carbon out, thats the black rock looking part if you didn't know. The carbon is bad for the plants so be sure to get it out. Or if you can upgrade to a canister filter they are best for the plants because they do not break the surface of the water.

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Old 08-19-2010, 01:21 PM   #47
 
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Ok, so I went to petsmart and bought some filter media that lowers ammonia levels. I put tank gravel in the very bottom of my filter then I put the media in a mesh bag and put it on top of the gravel. I then took one of the filter pockets, cut it in half and put that material on top of the media. I did this in both of my filters. I bought media that lowered the ammonia because I am still trying to stock my tank. I bought 3 neon tetras and added them to the tank last Thursday. They are all doing very well, and thank goodness I haven't had any fish die! I didn't add any live plants to the tank yet. Everything seems to be going well with the tank for the moment. I appreciate all the help and advice from everyone!
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Old 08-29-2010, 08:49 PM   #48
 
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Its been a while since I have had time to get online. In my tank I now have 2 platys, 5 neons, and one glofish. I bought 2 platys and a glofish about a week ago and added to the tank. The glofish didn't even last overnight. and one of my neons died that nite also, and I had him for about a week and he was fine. I can't seem to keep the glofish living, so I am not going to buy anymore. I have one and I know they should be in groups of 6 or more, but I can't seem to keep any of them alive in my tank. The one I have doesn't seem stressed out, she has outlasted a lot of the other fish I've had in the tank. Will it be ok to keep just the one? I also had one of the sunburst platy's die a couple days later. I have been trying now not to keep the tank so clean, thinking that was part of my problem at first. I don't think I gave it time enough for the beneficial bacteria to build up properly. I am adding fish more slowly now and only 3 at the most. Also, my pleco died....I dunno how that happened. I also posted in the disease section, my 2 platies have brown spots on their heads, is this something that will harm them? thank you in advance.
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:46 PM   #49
 
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Have you bought the nitrate test kit yet? I think you should check whether your tank has in fact cycled before you keep buying more fish. When you changed your filter material, you could have started from the beginning as far as cycling your tank goes. If your tank hasn't properly cycled yet, you need to test frequently for the levels of ammonia and nitrite. If one or the other is going up significantly when you are adding fish, that could be killing them off. Are you doing weekly water changes? How much are you feeding the fish you are adding? How are you introducing them to the tank? Are you buying them from the same shop?
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:17 PM   #50
 
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Have you bought the nitrate test kit yet? I think you should check whether your tank has in fact cycled before you keep buying more fish. When you changed your filter material, you could have started from the beginning as far as cycling your tank goes. If your tank hasn't properly cycled yet, you need to test frequently for the levels of ammonia and nitrite. If one or the other is going up significantly when you are adding fish, that could be killing them off. Are you doing weekly water changes? How much are you feeding the fish you are adding? How are you introducing them to the tank? Are you buying them from the same shop?

I only have a petsmart within an hour drive of me and I could never find the Nitrate test kit there, so I had to settle for the all in one test strips. I tested today and the readings are:

20ppg for Nitrate
0 Nitrite
7.2 PH
0 ammonia

I was doing weekly water changes and everytime, fish would be dead the next day. I have since stopped doing them once a week. I do add fresh water to the tank once a week where it has evaporated. I have continued to check the water and haven't had any ammonia spikes. I think I was keeping the tank too clean at first and the beneficial bacteria wasn't building as it needed. I haven't added any fish in over 2 weeks now. I am buying them all from the same petsmart. I feed my fish about one pinch of flakes in the morning everyday. When introducing the fish, I float the bag in the water for about 30 to 45 minutes with the light off. Then I drain the water out and place just the fish in the tank. I leave the light out the rest of the night. The fish that are in the tank now seem happy. I have heard they should always look hungry, and those guys do. Everytime I come to the tank, they think its feeding time...lol! I don't give in tho, they only get fed in the morning. The only thing I would say is odd is the brown spots on the head of the platties. I tried to get pictures of it, but it didn't work out so well. I will continue to try. Thanks So much!
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