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Old 08-06-2010, 01:02 AM   #21
 
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I guess I don't really know what filter media is.
Filter media just means "the stuff inside your filter". It might be bio-balls, ceramic noodles, filter wool, carbon, or a combination of those.

Neons can lose their colour when they are stressed. When I bought my black neons, they lost all their colour when the guy at the fish shop took them out of the tank and put them into the bag. They coloured back up when they settled into my tank. There may be other reasons, but's that's one I've encountered myself.
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Old 08-06-2010, 01:30 AM   #22
 
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Nothing jumps out at me from what you've told us. After 4 months the tank should be cycled. You have zero ammonia and nitrite, good. Hartz conditioner from what I can find online just neutralizes chlorine and chloramine, so that's OK. pH is 7.6 out of the tap and 7.4 in the tank, that's good.

Fish losing colour after they have been in the tank for some time usually means something in the water is bothering them, or in the tank (other fish, lackof "cover"--do youhave any decor or plants, live or fake? All tetra come from streams with either plants, overhanging vegetation, or roots and branches in the water.

Just throwing out some ideas here.
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Old 08-06-2010, 10:33 AM   #23
 
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Filter media just means "the stuff inside your filter". It might be bio-balls, ceramic noodles, filter wool, carbon, or a combination of those.

Neons can lose their colour when they are stressed. When I bought my black neons, they lost all their colour when the guy at the fish shop took them out of the tank and put them into the bag. They coloured back up when they settled into my tank. There may be other reasons, but's that's one I've encountered myself.

Ok, thanks. When I fed them this morning I was checking to make sure they were all ok and the lil neon had his color back and seemed just fine. I'm sure they were stressed, we had bad thunderstorms and it tripped my breaker that my tank was hooked up to, so everything in the tank was off for a couple hours before I got home to fix it. I guess I will try to a few more fish this weekend and see what happens. I would like to eventually get one of the Molly fish, would it fit in well with what i have in there the neons and platy (hope to be platies)? Thanks guys for all your help, I will continue to keep everyone posted on what is going on. I really love this site!
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Old 08-06-2010, 10:36 AM   #24
 
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yes, i have fake plants, and driftwood and i also have this other piece of wood thing that they really like, b/c it has holes in it for them to go hide in. I fed them this morning and all the neons had their color and were zipping around the tank. Could have been b/c the thunderstorms tripped my breaker and everything in the tank was off for a few hours last nite. Maybe he was just stressed. Thanks for your help, I will try adding a few more fish this weekend, and let everyone know how it goes!
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:03 PM   #25
 
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Remember the tetra is a shoaling fiswh that needs to be in a group, six is usually considered minimum. If you really like and want neons, get another 3 first.

Molly will be fine in your water, it is a livebearer needing basic harder water like the Platy. Your water numbers are not too high for tank-raised neons though.
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:29 PM   #26
 
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Remember the tetra is a shoaling fiswh that needs to be in a group, six is usually considered minimum. If you really like and want neons, get another 3 first.

Molly will be fine in your water, it is a livebearer needing basic harder water like the Platy. Your water numbers are not too high for tank-raised neons though.
Thanks. I had planned to get more of the tetras, just wanted to wait and see what was going on with my tank. I need to get the tetras built up and get a couple more platys as I only have one left now. I also need a couple more of the glofish. I have bought 4 of them and had only one survivor, and it was from the very first batch of fish I put in the tank. It seems happy and fine, swims alone and with the neons. But i know he needs friends too! Thanks for all the help, and I will keep you posted as to what happens when I add more. Oh I wanted to ask. i have only been adding five or six fish at a time. Wondering if I bought more of the tetras, if I could keep a few in a fish bowl and then add them in a couple at a time a few days apart? Or would they not last in a fish bowl?
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Thanks. I had planned to get more of the tetras, just wanted to wait and see what was going on with my tank. I need to get the tetras built up and get a couple more platys as I only have one left now. I also need a couple more of the glofish. I have bought 4 of them and had only one survivor, and it was from the very first batch of fish I put in the tank. It seems happy and fine, swims alone and with the neons. But i know he needs friends too! Thanks for all the help, and I will keep you posted as to what happens when I add more. Oh I wanted to ask. i have only been adding five or six fish at a time. Wondering if I bought more of the tetras, if I could keep a few in a fish bowl and then add them in a couple at a time a few days apart? Or would they not last in a fish bowl?
Not good. The reason you add fish to a tank a few at a time is the nitrification bacteria issue (cycling). New fish means more ammonia, and the bacteria need time to multiply in proportion. Also, the larger the water volume the better this goes, and if live plants are in the tank it is almost a non-issue as the plants grab the ammonia as ammonium very fast.

Putting the new fish in a bowl would mean un-cycled, even worse than in the aquarium which at least is cycled for what is in it. And before you ask, using water from the aquarium is useless because bacteria live on surfaces under water, not in the water.

This is a 45g tank, so let's assume it is now cycled for the fish in it, a fairly safe assumption I think after 4 months. Adding 3 neons and 5 (?) Glofish would be OK in my view. But no more. After a few days, if everything seems fine, add a couple platys and the mollys, I am assuming there would be 2-3 of each. Mollys the last, as they are particularly susceptible to ammonia poisoning.
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Old 08-07-2010, 11:02 AM   #28
 
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Ok, thanks, I will stick by those guidelines for adding some fish. I also found out it is a 55 gallon tank. Would you have any suggestions for some live plants to add that are fairly easy in care?
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Ok, thanks, I will stick by those guidelines for adding some fish. I also found out it is a 55 gallon tank. Would you have any suggestions for some live plants to add that are fairly easy in care?
Echinodorus species, commonly called Amazon sword plants. Echinodorus bleherae is almost always available somewhere and is a beautiful and hardy plant. The pygmy chain sword Echinodorus tenellus is great for the foreground and it reproduces quickly from runners. Check out the profiles, click the shaded names. To start with, I would ignore stem plants as they are fussier and beginners with plants frequently give up with these. You will need a good fertilizer, I recommend Seachem's Flourish Comprehensive Supplement for the Planted Aquarium. The Nutrafin Plant-Gro liquid also if you can't get Flourish, but Flourish first if you can get it. What is your tank light?
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Old 08-07-2010, 12:41 PM   #30
 
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Just regular hood lights
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