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Old 08-04-2010, 04:30 PM   #11
 
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What sort of filter do you have and what's in there now?
I have one femaly platy, one glofish, one small pleco, and 3 neon tetras
I am using the aquatech filters, one is a 20-40 gallon and the other is a 10-30 gallon.
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Old 08-04-2010, 06:18 PM   #12
 
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is it a glowlight danio or a glofish??

If it's the danio, they should be kept in group of atleast 6

The neon tetras should definetly be kept in groups of atleast 6

both of those fish are schooling fish and are less stressed if kept in groups.

what kind of pleco do you have? can you get a picture of it?
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Old 08-04-2010, 06:58 PM   #13
 
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I usually do my water changes on Sunday, I have been doing them once a week, was wondering if I should maybe do them every other week. How often should I vacuum the gravel? And when doing the water changes I usually do about a third of the water.
Once a week is a good routine for water changes, and 1/3 is fine. I do 1/2 every week, but I have a lot of fish. The more fish or the larger the fish, the more water needing changing more often.

You can vacuum the gravel during water changes (I assume you have one of those water changing gadgets) if it is open; if you have plants, don't vacuum around the plants.
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Old 08-04-2010, 09:06 PM   #14
 
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I am using the aquatech filters,
Googling didn't get me to a site that had pictures or manuals for that brand. What I suggest you do is try to find the manual for it online (or ask at a shop that sells them if you could look at a manual) and see what is supposed to be in there. Did you buy new filter media for it when you set it up? What's in there now? Is there spare room that looks like it's where the bio-balls should go? It may be that those bio-balls are supposed to be in there (I have them in my internal filters, and also in my new canister filter). If you can find the manual, you can check if they are supposed to be in there and where they are meant to go. If they are not intended to be there, you might still be able to add them. All they do is provide lots of surface area for bacteria to grow on so I can't see the harm in adding them (but I'm no expert, so take what I say with a grain of salt).
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:39 AM   #15
 
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is it a glowlight danio or a glofish??

If it's the danio, they should be kept in group of atleast 6

The neon tetras should definetly be kept in groups of atleast 6

both of those fish are schooling fish and are less stressed if kept in groups.

what kind of pleco do you have? can you get a picture of it?

Its a glofish, and yea i was trying to get the quantity built up but everytime i buy more and add them, they die.

I bought 5 neon tetras to begin with and I lost another today so I am down to 2

Ummm...I will try to get a pic of it, and I will look and get the exact name of it when i go back to petsmart.
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:41 AM   #16
 
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Googling didn't get me to a site that had pictures or manuals for that brand. What I suggest you do is try to find the manual for it online (or ask at a shop that sells them if you could look at a manual) and see what is supposed to be in there. Did you buy new filter media for it when you set it up? What's in there now? Is there spare room that looks like it's where the bio-balls should go? It may be that those bio-balls are supposed to be in there (I have them in my internal filters, and also in my new canister filter). If you can find the manual, you can check if they are supposed to be in there and where they are meant to go. If they are not intended to be there, you might still be able to add them. All they do is provide lots of surface area for bacteria to grow on so I can't see the harm in adding them (but I'm no expert, so take what I say with a grain of salt).

I didn't buy any media. I bought new filters, and there is empty space behind the filters where it looks like it may go. Thanks!
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Old 08-05-2010, 12:56 AM   #17
 
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When you say filters, do you mean some kind of filter cartridge? All of my filters came with bioballs and ceramic noodles as well as filter wool (some also had carbon). Those cartridges usually have some carbon with some filter wool on the outside, I think. If you've get extra space it's probably where your bio-balls are supposed to go. They have a large surface area for the bacteria to grow so if you are meant to have them in your filter they could help a lot in getting your good bacteria properly established.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:39 PM   #18
 
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When you say filters, do you mean some kind of filter cartridge? All of my filters came with bioballs and ceramic noodles as well as filter wool (some also had carbon). Those cartridges usually have some carbon with some filter wool on the outside, I think. If you've get extra space it's probably where your bio-balls are supposed to go. They have a large surface area for the bacteria to grow so if you are meant to have them in your filter they could help a lot in getting your good bacteria properly established.

I tried the balls, and they didn't fit behind the filter cartridge. I guess I don't really know what filter media is. I am going to try to replace these filters completly at some point, just cant do it now while trying to get everything else going the right way. Also, some one asked, I don't remember who, about my ph of my tap water.
ph of tap water is 7.6
ph of tank is about 7.4
ammonia is zero
nitrite is zero,
and I haven't yet made it to petsmart for the Nitrate kit yet. I will also get filter media when I go for the kit.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:41 PM   #19
 
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I thought I lost one of my neon tetras, but I cam home this evening to see him in the tank, but his color looks washed out, almost faded and he seems very lethargic. Is this some kind of disease? Or is it because the tank may still be cycling? The other fish in the tank seem fine. It's been 2 and a half weeks maybe 3 since I added any fish, should I try adding a few more?
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:47 PM   #20
 
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You are correct in not adding more fish until you figure out the problem. So let's see if we can.

You mention adding top-up water; do you do regular partial water changes? If yes, how often, and how much water each time? And which water conditioner do you use to treat the water? Are any other additives being used now? You mentioned chemicals to cycle the tank, exactly what was put in?

The tank water pH is 7.6; what is the pH of your tap water? Run a glass of tap water and let it sit overnight before testing, as this will give a more accurate reading for tap water pH because the carbon dioxide in the tap water needs to dissipate out.

One comment, 72F was a bit cool for platies, that may have partly contributed. If fish are being affected by some issue, anything else that adds stress is not good. The neons on the other hand will be fine in the low 70's. We can discuss that more later. First, let's find the source of the problem, and your answers to the above questions will help us.

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Hi, Byron..sorry it took me a minute to get back with you!

PH of tap water is 7.6
PH of tank is 7.4
Ammonia is zero
Nitrite is zero.

I haven't had a chance to get to petsmart for the nitrate kit yet. I did turn up the heater slowly, its about 76 degrees onw. I thought I lost a neon tetra last nite, but I found the missing one this morning. He's still in the tank but he looks washed out and seems lethargic. The rest of the fish seem fine tho. Thanks for your help!
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