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Old 12-24-2007, 09:20 AM   #11
UGh I'm beginning to hate people who sale fish. I plaining asked if all the fish needed to have a certain number in a group and they told 2 on this or 3 for this one. I told them my tank size and what I had already in there and they told me it would be fine.

I guess I will taking a few guys back on Wednesday.

The petstore plainly told me when I took my floater back the reason it died was my fault not their bad water. Which I know is always the cause. But they told I HAD to use the salt, and I told them exactly what was in my tank. I'm going to be so MAD if anymore of them die before I can take the ones back that are not compatiable with my tank.

And now I just found out that the White Clouds aren't tropical fish, the tag at the store said they were Tropical Community Fish, and had them in there with some barbs and some other little fish.

I really believe we have more dummies in the world than we have smart folks. When I bought all of theses yesterday, the first man put water in the bag and put my cory catfish in it and a snail. Well the next man came to help because 1st was leaving. He put a snail in with no water just air. I figure he'll be the one to die real soon. don't all the mystery snails need water?
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:42 AM   #12
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Mysteries can live for up to an hour or 2 without water. He should have put water in there though. how was he to know how long it takes you to get home?

One thing you'll learn, or rather seem already to have learned, is never to listen to pet store employees - always research first.
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:00 AM   #13
Ok well I've had 2 more floaters this morning and 1 half floater. he was still kicking just not to peppy. So I took them all back this morning and got my money back. Had my water tested again while down there and this is what has happened since 9 last night

Nitrate 60
Nitrite 1.0
Hardness 300
Alkalinity 20
PH 7.0
Ammonia 0

Someone please help me. I'm about to go crazy. At least this man I spoke to this morning seemed to know what he was talking about he told me NOT to buy anymore fish. And the one last night said it would be fine.

Also what kind of veggies can I feed my children. I've been doing peas, but they don't really like them. Only the plecos, so I was looking for something new to introduce to them. I noticed at the Petstore today they were feeding some oranges to golfish, and pickles to chiiclids, and a few other types.
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:17 AM   #14
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What's a pickle? Onions in vinegar? You shouldn't feed onions but orange should be fine. Courgette (zuchini) will be appreciated by your plec as well.

Feed orange in small amounts if you're feeding it though. Any leftovers could hav some strange effects on ph. Veg also make the water cloudy and dirty if uneaten food isn't removed. If any courgette isn't eaten after 12 hours take it out.
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:22 AM   #15
A pickle is a cucumber that has been preserved and seasoned.


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Old 12-24-2007, 03:46 PM   #16
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Hi Tiffianylynn! So what do you have left in the tank? You were right to take back the fish. Your tank was overstocked and with nitrites at 1.0 and nitrates at 60 you need to do some water changes to get those numbers down or you may lose more fish. Ammonia and nitrites should be at 0 and nitrates should be under 20.
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:27 PM   #17
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How long has your tank been running? It almost sounds like it is not fully cycled. Pickles? Ummm I'm not to sure but I wouldn't recommend feeding pickles. You should just stick to cucumbers. Fish like oranges too... Your very over stocked but yeah.. Thats already been mentioned here. Also Falina I've used salt with my mysterys and it didn't seem to bother them? I'm sure pouring salt directly on them would be bad news, and they may not like it to much. But it didn't kill them. In my experience anyways, lol that is no where near yours. So maybe my snails just a tough guy?
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Old 12-26-2007, 05:04 PM   #18
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Tiffany: The nitrites you are seeing are dangerously high. You should do at least a 50% water change with water the same temperature as what is in the tank. I fill a bucket with the water that I take out and just compare it by feel with the water I am putting back. You can easily get within 1 degree this way if you don't have a thermometer to use. I have stopped using one since I found that I could easily match by feel.
Don't forget to treat the water with dechlorinator before you put it in with your fish. Another 50% change tomorrow should get you to a safer range for the fish. Jeaninel is right about what would be safe levels.
It would be a good idea not to feed your fish for a day or 2 until you get your water parameters under control. It won't hurt the fish not to eat for a day or 2 but any food they eat goes through the fish and adds to the water quality problems. The way they ship fish commercially is to stop feeding them a day before they ship them and then no food while they are travelling. Most of them go without food longer than we would consider wise yet they do survive the shipment.
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