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post #1 of 12 Old 11-06-2010, 07:27 AM Thread Starter
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Hey Guys, I have just bought a 125 liters/33 gallon fish tank. I set it up with gravel and all but the filter doesn't release bubbles into the water, it just keeps it moving.What should i do?

I was going to get 4 fish for the 33Gal. Tank but not sure if they can live together:
Kissing Gourami, Angel Fish, Siamese Algae Eater, Mixed Color parrot Chichlids.

One more question: If I get these fish and my filter works (releases bubbles/oxygen) then should i get plants for my aquarium? Real or fake? What kinds?

If you want me to take pics i will upload em.
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post #2 of 12 Old 11-06-2010, 07:39 AM
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Welcome to the forum!

What type of filter do you have? Sponge, power, canister?

Your fish setup will not work for a 33 gallon tank. Kissing gouramis can get over 12" long. I'd be careful before adding any type of cichlid to a tank (as many species of cichlid are very aggresive). Angelfish and gourami are both semi-aggressive fish so be careful not to overstock.

That is all I have to write. Hope this helps!

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post #3 of 12 Old 11-06-2010, 07:40 AM
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Welcome to the forum.

The filter's job is to filter the water. It doesn't add bubbles or oxygen. If you want bubbles you need to get an air pump and an airstone.

You should read the tropical fish profiles for each of the fish you are interested in. There's a tab at the top of the forum to look up the fish profiles. Angelfish need to be in a group, so you couldn't get just one (I don't know about its compatibility with the other fish you mention). Before you select your fish, test your water pH, hardness and then select fish that will do well in your water.

It's up to you whether to get real or fake plants. Real plants need proper lighting, so you need to consider what lights you have with your tank and whether they are suitable for growing plants.
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post #4 of 12 Old 11-06-2010, 10:19 AM
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Hi and welcome to the forum. If you want to add air to the water you need a pump and airstone. Some people dont use them as they arent always necessary. As far as your set up I dont think your fish choices are compatible. You should learn about the fish you want to buy before you buy them. You can learn all about them by going to the tropical fish profiles, second tab from the left on the blue bar on the top.
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post #5 of 12 Old 11-06-2010, 11:14 AM Thread Starter
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Guys, I think ill drop the Angelfish. I did the research on the blood parrot, siamese algae eater and the kisser. The kissing gourami can live with the siamese algae eater and it is friendly toward bigger/friendly fish (blood parrot). I read on about 4 websites that kissers are fine in a 25 gallon and above, and i'm getting about 4.

Can you please correct me if i'm wrong and do you think i would need an air pump for these guys??

And if I wanted a planted aquarium do i have to use soil for the ground?

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post #6 of 12 Old 11-06-2010, 11:26 AM
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The profile says they grow to 12 inches. I don't think they are suitable for your size tank.
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post #7 of 12 Old 11-06-2010, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
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But all fish grow to a size suitable for its container... it also says on alot of sites.
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post #8 of 12 Old 11-06-2010, 11:56 AM
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I have read a few sources saying that while it's true that the fish will grow to a suitable size for its container, it's not healthy for the fish because you are stunting it from reaching its full growth. I have read that while the outside of the fish only will reach a size suitable for the tank, the insides of the fish will keep growing, thus creating a risk for deformities and other health issues, and shortened lifespan. It would be like if someone forced YOU to live in a closet, provided you with the proper food to keep you alive... but you would definitely not be comfortable.
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post #9 of 12 Old 11-06-2010, 11:57 AM Thread Starter
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Here are the Pictures of my Aquarium. Note: Filter is on and lights is well. (dropping the Gourami)

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post #10 of 12 Old 11-06-2010, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mirdad97 View Post
But all fish grow to a size suitable for its container... it also says on alot of sites.
This is false and irresponsible. Please research your fish before buying, and make sure they are totally compatible. Compatible means not only "friendly" to other fish you intend getting, but sharing identical water parameters (hardness, pH, temperature) and they are the right size for the tank--and this must take into account their mature size, plus if they need to be in groups. The kissing gourami info in our profile is accurate. I wrote it. And I researched it from several reputable sources and ichthyologists who know fish.

With respect to the size, as iamgray noted, fish kept in small tanks do not develop properly and will at best be sick a lot with disease, or at worst die prematurely. A fish grows all its life, unlike us, and the internal organs develop throughout this process, even if the external fish skeleton can't due to the tank restrictions and water issues resulting from those. The fish is "stunted" and will constantly have health problems due to the deficient immune system from the stress and stunting.

The list of fish in your first post are not suitable for a 33g tank, they are all too large (if they live healthy normal lives) and incompatible on other accounts as noted in our profiles.

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The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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